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Better Together LIVE | Episode 124

October 15, 2020

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Better Together LIVE | Episode 124

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- LAURIE: WE ARE CHOSEN
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- LAURIE: WE ARE CHOSENAND FULLY ACCEPTED BY GOD
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AND FULLY ACCEPTED BY GODHIS OPINION OF US IS THE
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HIS OPINION OF US IS THEONLY ONE THAT TRULY
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ONLY ONE THAT TRULYMATTERS.
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MATTERS.TODAY WE'RE LEARNING HOW
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TODAY WE'RE LEARNING HOWTO STOP PEOPLE PLEASING
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TO STOP PEOPLE PLEASINGAND FOCUS ON AN AUDIENCE
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AND FOCUS ON AN AUDIENCEOF ONE.
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OF ONE.COME ON, WE NEED TO TALK
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COME ON, WE NEED TO TALKABOUT THIS.
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ABOUT THIS.♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪♪ MUSIC ♪
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♪ MUSIC ♪- JOYCE: PEOPLE PLEASING.
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- JOYCE: PEOPLE PLEASING.IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING
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IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHINGTHAT WE OUGHT TO DO.
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THAT WE OUGHT TO DO.AND THERE'S ACTUALLY EVEN
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AND THERE'S ACTUALLY EVENA PLACE IN THE BIBLE WHERE
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A PLACE IN THE BIBLE WHEREIT DOES SAY TO LIVE TO
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IT DOES SAY TO LIVE TOPLEASE OTHERS AND NOT
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PLEASE OTHERS AND NOTYOURSELF.
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YOURSELF.BUT THEN ACTS 5:29 SAYS:
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BUT THEN ACTS 5:29 SAYS:WE MUST OBEY GOD.
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WE MUST OBEY GOD.AND NOT MAN.
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AND NOT MAN.AND SO, I THINK THAT WE
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AND SO, I THINK THAT WEWANT TO TRY TO PLEASE
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WANT TO TRY TO PLEASEPEOPLE AND MAKE THEM HAPPY
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PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM HAPPYUNTIL WHAT THEY'RE WANTING
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UNTIL WHAT THEY'RE WANTINGUS TO DO IS GOING AGAINST
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US TO DO IS GOING AGAINSTWHAT GOD IS WANTING US TO DO.
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WHAT GOD IS WANTING US TO DO.AND GROWING UP IN AN
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AND GROWING UP IN ANABUSIVE HOME WITH AN ANGRY
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ABUSIVE HOME WITH AN ANGRYALCOHOLIC FATHER AND A
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ALCOHOLIC FATHER AND AMOTHER WHO WAS JUST WEAK
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MOTHER WHO WAS JUST WEAKIN HER TEMPERAMENT.
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IN HER TEMPERAMENT.SHE WAS FEARFUL AND WEAK
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SHE WAS FEARFUL AND WEAKAND SHE WOULDN'T REALLY
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AND SHE WOULDN'T REALLYSTAND UP FOR HERSELF OR
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STAND UP FOR HERSELF ORFOR MY BROTHER AND I.
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FOR MY BROTHER AND I.MY FATHER WAS SEXUALLY
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MY FATHER WAS SEXUALLYABUSIVE.
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ABUSIVE.ABUSED ME ON A REGULAR
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ABUSED ME ON A REGULARBASIS FOR 12, 13, 14, 15
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BASIS FOR 12, 13, 14, 15YEARS.
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YEARS.THAT'S ALL I EVER
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THAT'S ALL I EVERREMEMBER, SO, I KNOW IT
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REMEMBER, SO, I KNOW ITSTARTED REALLY EARLY.
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STARTED REALLY EARLY.AND IT WAS REPETITIVE.
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AND IT WAS REPETITIVE.IT WASN'T JUST A HANDFUL
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IT WASN'T JUST A HANDFULOF TIMES.
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OF TIMES.IT WAS ALL THE TIME.
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IT WAS ALL THE TIME.AND MY MOTHER KNEW IT.
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AND MY MOTHER KNEW IT.SHE CAUGHT HIM.
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SHE CAUGHT HIM.I TOLD HER.
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I TOLD HER.BUT SHE WOULDN'T,
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BUT SHE WOULDN'T,WOULDN'T, COULDN'T DO
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WOULDN'T, COULDN'T DOANYTHING ABOUT IT.
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ANYTHING ABOUT IT.THIRTY YEARS AFTER I WAS
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THIRTY YEARS AFTER I WASOUT OF THERE AND IN
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OUT OF THERE AND INMINISTRY, SHE SAID TO ME,
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MINISTRY, SHE SAID TO ME,"I'M SORRY FOR WHAT I LET
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"I'M SORRY FOR WHAT I LETYOUR DAD DO TO YOU.
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YOUR DAD DO TO YOU.I JUST DIDN'T THINK" --
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I JUST DIDN'T THINK" --TO ME, THIS IS INTERESTING--
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TO ME, THIS IS INTERESTING--"I DIDN'T THINK THAT I
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"I DIDN'T THINK THAT ICOULD MAKE IT ON MY OWN
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COULD MAKE IT ON MY OWNAND TAKE CARE OF YOU AND
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AND TAKE CARE OF YOU ANDYOUR BROTHER, AND I DIDN'T
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YOUR BROTHER, AND I DIDN'TTHINK I COULD FACE THE SCANDAL."
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THINK I COULD FACE THE SCANDAL."YOU SEE, INCEST BACK IN
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YOU SEE, INCEST BACK INTHOSE DAYS WAS NOT
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THOSE DAYS WAS NOTANYTHING THAT ANYBODY
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ANYTHING THAT ANYBODYTALKED ABOUT.
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TALKED ABOUT.YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
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YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUTTHAT.
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THAT.ACTUALLY, WHEN I STARTED
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ACTUALLY, WHEN I STARTEDOPENLY TALKING ABOUT IT IN
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OPENLY TALKING ABOUT IT INTHE PULPIT, I DON'T KNOW
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THE PULPIT, I DON'T KNOWTHIS, BUT I THINK I COULD
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THIS, BUT I THINK I COULDHAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FIRST
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HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FIRSTTO EVER DO THAT, BECAUSE
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TO EVER DO THAT, BECAUSEYOU JUST DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
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YOU JUST DIDN'T TALK ABOUTIT.
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IT.AND MY DAD WAS A VERY
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AND MY DAD WAS A VERYANGRY MAN.
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ANGRY MAN.THERE WAS ALWAYS THIS
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THERE WAS ALWAYS THISDANCE GOING ON OF TRYING
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DANCE GOING ON OF TRYINGTO KEEP DADDY HAPPY.
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TO KEEP DADDY HAPPY.I COULD TELL EARLIER WHEN
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I COULD TELL EARLIER WHENYOU WERE TALKING THAT WE
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YOU WERE TALKING THAT WECOULD JUST OVERLAY THE
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COULD JUST OVERLAY THESTORIES AND THEY WOULD BE
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STORIES AND THEY WOULD BETHE SAME.
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THE SAME.IT WAS ALL ABOUT DOING
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IT WAS ALL ABOUT DOINGWHATEVER WAS REQUIRED TO
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WHATEVER WAS REQUIRED TOKEEP HIM HAPPY.
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KEEP HIM HAPPY.BECAUSE WHEN HE GOT MAD,
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BECAUSE WHEN HE GOT MAD,OR ANGRY, IT JUST WASN'T
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OR ANGRY, IT JUST WASN'TPRETTY.
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PRETTY.IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM
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IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROMGETTING SLAPPED ACROSS THE
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GETTING SLAPPED ACROSS THEFACE TO HAVING ALL YOUR
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FACE TO HAVING ALL YOURPRIVILEGES TAKEN AWAY,
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PRIVILEGES TAKEN AWAY,WHATEVER THOSE WERE.
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WHATEVER THOSE WERE.SO YOU DON'T LIVE LIKE
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SO YOU DON'T LIVE LIKETHAT FOR THAT MANY YEARS
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THAT FOR THAT MANY YEARSAND THEN JUST WALK AWAY
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AND THEN JUST WALK AWAYAND NOT STILL HAVE SOME OF
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AND NOT STILL HAVE SOME OFTHAT LEFT OVER.
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THAT LEFT OVER.SO, MY SITUATION WITH
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SO, MY SITUATION WITHPEOPLE PLEASING IS REALLY,
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PEOPLE PLEASING IS REALLY,I THINK, VERY INTERESTING,
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I THINK, VERY INTERESTING,BECAUSE I WAS ALSO A
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BECAUSE I WAS ALSO ACONTROLLER, SO IF I COULD
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CONTROLLER, SO IF I COULDCONTROL SOMEBODY, I WOULD.
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CONTROL SOMEBODY, I WOULD.BUT, IF THEY WOULDN'T LET
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BUT, IF THEY WOULDN'T LETME AND IS IT WAS A
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ME AND IS IT WAS ARELATIONSHIP I WANTED TO
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RELATIONSHIP I WANTED TOKEEP, I WOULD QUICKLY
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KEEP, I WOULD QUICKLYBECOME THE PEOPLE PLEASER
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BECOME THE PEOPLE PLEASERAND SO I DID BOTH.
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AND SO I DID BOTH.SO BEING AROUND ME, YOU
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SO BEING AROUND ME, YOUWOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER
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WOULD NEVER, EVER, EVERTHINK THAT I WAS EVER A
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THINK THAT I WAS EVER APEOPLE PLEASER BECAUSE I
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PEOPLE PLEASER BECAUSE ICOME ACROSS STRONG.
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COME ACROSS STRONG.AND NORMALLY, THAT IS THE
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AND NORMALLY, THAT IS THEWAY I AM.
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WAY I AM.BUT, AS I GOT OLDER AND I
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BUT, AS I GOT OLDER AND IGOT INTO OTHER
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GOT INTO OTHERRELATIONSHIPS AND GOT INTO
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RELATIONSHIPS AND GOT INTOCHURCH, THIS IS BEFORE GOD
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CHURCH, THIS IS BEFORE GODEVER CALLED ME TO PREACH
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EVER CALLED ME TO PREACHOR BEFORE-- I ALWAYS SAY
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OR BEFORE-- I ALWAYS SAYBEFORE I BECAME A SERIOUS
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BEFORE I BECAME A SERIOUSCHRISTIAN, I'VE BEEN A
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CHRISTIAN, I'VE BEEN ACHRISTIAN AS LONG AS I CAN
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CHRISTIAN AS LONG AS I CANREMEMBER.
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REMEMBER.BUT I WASN'T A SERIOUS ONE
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BUT I WASN'T A SERIOUS ONEUNTIL GOD TOUCHED MY LIFE
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UNTIL GOD TOUCHED MY LIFEBACK IN THE 70's DURING
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BACK IN THE 70's DURINGTHE OUTPOURING OF THE
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THE OUTPOURING OF THEHOLY SPIRIT THAT WE OFTEN
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HOLY SPIRIT THAT WE OFTENREFER TO AS THE
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REFER TO AS THECHARISMATIC MOVEMENT.
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CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT.I WAS GOING TO A CHURCH
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I WAS GOING TO A CHURCHTHE DENOMINATIONAL CHURCH
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THE DENOMINATIONAL CHURCHDAVE GREW UP IN.
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DAVE GREW UP IN.I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE
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I ALWAYS WANTED TO BEIMPORTANT BECAUSE I FELT
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IMPORTANT BECAUSE I FELTBAD ABOUT MYSELF.
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BAD ABOUT MYSELF.I WANTED TO BE IMPORTANT.
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I WANTED TO BE IMPORTANT.I WANTED TO LEAD.
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I WANTED TO LEAD.SO THERE WAS THIS ONE
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SO THERE WAS THIS ONEWOMAN THAT KIND OF WAS THE
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WOMAN THAT KIND OF WAS THEWOMAN THAT IF YOU WANT TO
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WOMAN THAT IF YOU WANT TOBE IN THE IN-CROWD YOU
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BE IN THE IN-CROWD YOUHAVE TO BE IN WITH HER.
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HAVE TO BE IN WITH HER.I LOOK BACK NOW WHEN I
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I LOOK BACK NOW WHEN ITHINK, IT JUST MAKES ME
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THINK, IT JUST MAKES MEALMOST WANT TO THROW UP
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ALMOST WANT TO THROW UPTHE WAY I CATERED TO HER
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THE WAY I CATERED TO HERAND WAS SO UNAUTHENTIC
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AND WAS SO UNAUTHENTICWITH HER, BECAUSE I WOULD
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WITH HER, BECAUSE I WOULDJUST MAKE ON OVER HER AND
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JUST MAKE ON OVER HER ANDCALL HER EVERYDAY AND
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CALL HER EVERYDAY ANDCOMPLIMENT HER AND
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COMPLIMENT HER ANDANYTHING SHE WANTED ME TO
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ANYTHING SHE WANTED ME TODO I WOULD DO.
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DO I WOULD DO.AND SURE ENOUGH, I GOT
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AND SURE ENOUGH, I GOTWHAT I WANTED.
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WHAT I WANTED.I GOT IN WITH THE IN-CROWD.
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I GOT IN WITH THE IN-CROWD.DAVE WAS AN ELDER IN THE
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DAVE WAS AN ELDER IN THECHURCH.
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CHURCH.WE WERE ALWAYS INVITED TO
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WE WERE ALWAYS INVITED TOALL THE PARTIES AND YADA
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ALL THE PARTIES AND YADAYADA YADA.
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YADA YADA.BUT, THE THING IS, WHEN
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BUT, THE THING IS, WHENYOU GET A RELATIONSHIP
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YOU GET A RELATIONSHIPTHAT WAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU
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THAT WAY, THAT'S WHAT YOUGOT TO DO TO KEEP IT.
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GOT TO DO TO KEEP IT.- LISA: THERE'S NO
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- LISA: THERE'S NOFOUNDATION.
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FOUNDATION.- JOYCE: AND SO,
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- JOYCE: AND SO,EVENTUALLY IT BECOMES
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EVENTUALLY IT BECOMESEXHAUSTING AND YOU GET SO
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EXHAUSTING AND YOU GET SOFED UP WITH FALLING ALL
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FED UP WITH FALLING ALLOVER THIS PERSON THAT YOU
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OVER THIS PERSON THAT YOUCAN'T EVEN HARDLY STAND,
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CAN'T EVEN HARDLY STAND,THEN, WHEN GOD DID TOUCH
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THEN, WHEN GOD DID TOUCHMY LIFE AND I WAS CALLED
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MY LIFE AND I WAS CALLEDTO TEACH, ALL THESE PEOPLE
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TO TEACH, ALL THESE PEOPLETHAT I THOUGHT WERE MY
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THAT I THOUGHT WERE MYFRIENDS WERE THE FIRST
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FRIENDS WERE THE FIRSTONES TO TURN AGAINST ME
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ONES TO TURN AGAINST MEAND TELL ME-- WELL, IF
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AND TELL ME-- WELL, IFTHIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA
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THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNADO, THEN WE CAN'T HAVE
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DO, THEN WE CAN'T HAVEANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
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ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU.SO, ALL MY PEOPLE PLEASING
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SO, ALL MY PEOPLE PLEASINGDIDN'T REALLY GET ME ANY
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DIDN'T REALLY GET ME ANYFRIENDS, IT JUST-- AN
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FRIENDS, IT JUST-- ANEXERCISE IN EXHAUSTION.
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EXERCISE IN EXHAUSTION.I PRETTY MUCH DON'T HAVE A
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I PRETTY MUCH DON'T HAVE APROBLEM ANYMORE WITH
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PROBLEM ANYMORE WITHPEOPLE PLEASING, EXCEPT,
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PEOPLE PLEASING, EXCEPT,WITH MY CHILDREN.
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WITH MY CHILDREN.(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)- LAURIE: OKAY.
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- LAURIE: OKAY.- JOYCE: AND, IT'S NOT
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- JOYCE: AND, IT'S NOTTHAT TRY TO MAKE ME BE A
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THAT TRY TO MAKE ME BE APEOPLE PLEASER, I DO IT
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PEOPLE PLEASER, I DO ITALL ON MY OWN.
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ALL ON MY OWN.I CAN TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
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I CAN TALK ABOUT PEOPLEPLEASING BECAUSE I KNOW.
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PLEASING BECAUSE I KNOW.AND I ALSO FOUND IN MY
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AND I ALSO FOUND IN MYLIFE AS AN ADULT, THAT ANY
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LIFE AS AN ADULT, THAT ANYTIME I RAN ACROSS SOMEBODY
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TIME I RAN ACROSS SOMEBODYTHAT HAD A PERSONALITY
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THAT HAD A PERSONALITYLIKE MY FATHER'S, I WOULD
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LIKE MY FATHER'S, I WOULDGO INTO THAT SAME ROUTINE
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GO INTO THAT SAME ROUTINEAGAIN.
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AGAIN.IF THEY WERE REAL STRONG
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IF THEY WERE REAL STRONGAND ABRASIVE AND
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AND ABRASIVE ANDAGGRESSIVE AND HAD A QUICK
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AGGRESSIVE AND HAD A QUICKTEMPER, I WOULD QUICKLY
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TEMPER, I WOULD QUICKLYBECOME THE PEOPLE PLEASER
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BECOME THE PEOPLE PLEASERBECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T WANT
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BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T WANTANYBODY MAD AT ME.
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ANYBODY MAD AT ME.I LIVED IN SO MUCH ANGER
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I LIVED IN SO MUCH ANGERWHEN I WAS GROWING UP,
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WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,THAT I DON'T-- YOU KNOW,
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THAT I DON'T-- YOU KNOW,EVEN IF TWO OF MY KIDS
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EVEN IF TWO OF MY KIDSAREN'T GETTING ALONG, I
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AREN'T GETTING ALONG, ICAN'T STAND IT UNTIL
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CAN'T STAND IT UNTILEVERYTHING IS-- YOU KNOW,
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EVERYTHING IS-- YOU KNOW,PEACEFUL AGAIN.
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PEACEFUL AGAIN.- LISA: I'M SO FAR BEHIND
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- LISA: I'M SO FAR BEHINDAS FAR AS SPIRITUAL
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AS FAR AS SPIRITUALMATURITY, BUT I AM WALKING
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MATURITY, BUT I AM WALKINGBEHIND YOU.
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BEHIND YOU.I'M GRATEFUL YOU MADE THE
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I'M GRATEFUL YOU MADE THEPATH.
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PATH.BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
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BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYINGIS WHAT GOD CONTINUES TO
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IS WHAT GOD CONTINUES TOTEACH ME AND I'VE REALIZED
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TEACH ME AND I'VE REALIZEDTHAT PEACE WITH GOD HAS
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THAT PEACE WITH GOD HASNOTHING TO DO WITH THE
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NOTHING TO DO WITH THEAPPROVAL OF OTHER PEOPLE.
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APPROVAL OF OTHER PEOPLE.HE HAS JUST HAD TO UNSEAT
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HE HAS JUST HAD TO UNSEATA LOT OF IDOLS IN MY LIFE.
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A LOT OF IDOLS IN MY LIFE.THIS IS REAL SIMPLISTIC,
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THIS IS REAL SIMPLISTIC,BUT A PASTOR THAT HAS
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BUT A PASTOR THAT HASMENTORED ME, HE SAID,
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MENTORED ME, HE SAID,LISA, IT'S NOT BAD THAT
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LISA, IT'S NOT BAD THATPEOPLE ARE PLEASED WITH
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PEOPLE ARE PLEASED WITHYOU, IT'S THAT IT'S KIND
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YOU, IT'S THAT IT'S KINDOF LIKE FIGURE SKATING,
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OF LIKE FIGURE SKATING,YOU THROW OUT THE HIGH
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YOU THROW OUT THE HIGHSCORES AND THE LOW SCORES
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SCORES AND THE LOW SCORESAND YOU JUST SOMEWHERE IN
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AND YOU JUST SOMEWHERE INTHE MIDDLE.
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THE MIDDLE.I FOUND MYSELF, YOU KNOW
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I FOUND MYSELF, YOU KNOWHOW IT IS, ALL OF US HAVE
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HOW IT IS, ALL OF US HAVEPLATFORMS AT SOME LEVEL
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PLATFORMS AT SOME LEVELWHERE WHATEVER-- YOU SING
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WHERE WHATEVER-- YOU SINGAND YOU PREACH AND SO YOU
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AND YOU PREACH AND SO YOUDO WHATEVER YOU'RE CALLED TO
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DO WHATEVER YOU'RE CALLED TODO AND IT USED TO BE I
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DO AND IT USED TO BE IWOULD ALMOST RESENT IF IT
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WOULD ALMOST RESENT IF ITWENT OVER WELL, BECAUSE I
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WENT OVER WELL, BECAUSE ITHOUGHT, YOU DON'T REALLY
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THOUGHT, YOU DON'T REALLYKNOW ME.
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KNOW ME.WHY ARE YOU CLAPPING?
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WHY ARE YOU CLAPPING?BECAUSE I WAS SO
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BECAUSE I WAS SODISTRUSTFUL OF KINDNESS
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DISTRUSTFUL OF KINDNESSBECAUSE OF SOME STUFF FROM
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BECAUSE OF SOME STUFF FROMMY PAST.
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MY PAST.I WOULD SMILE AND NOD, BUT
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I WOULD SMILE AND NOD, BUTI WOULD THINK, THERE'S
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I WOULD THINK, THERE'SNOTHING IN THAT THAT FEEDS
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NOTHING IN THAT THAT FEEDSANYTHING IN ME.
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ANYTHING IN ME.I WAS EXPECTING-- BUT IF
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I WAS EXPECTING-- BUT IFSOMEBODY SAID THAT'S THE
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SOMEBODY SAID THAT'S THEWORST THING I'VE EVER
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WORST THING I'VE EVERHEARD ANYBODY SAY ON
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HEARD ANYBODY SAY ON1 THESSALONIANS, I'D BE
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1 THESSALONIANS, I'D BELIKE, OKAY.
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LIKE, OKAY.IT'S LIKE THE GRIEVE IN ME
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IT'S LIKE THE GRIEVE IN MEGOT SO STUCK ON ABUSE THAT
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GOT SO STUCK ON ABUSE THATWAS THE ONLY PLACE I WAS
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WAS THE ONLY PLACE I WASCOMFORTABLE.
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COMFORTABLE.WHEN I REALIZED, WHAT AN
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WHEN I REALIZED, WHAT ANIDOL THAT WAS IN MY LIFE
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IDOL THAT WAS IN MY LIFEAND HOW I REALLY DIDN'T
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AND HOW I REALLY DIDN'TBELIEVE, I BELIEVE GOD
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BELIEVE, I BELIEVE GODDELIVERED ME FROM MY SINS.
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DELIVERED ME FROM MY SINS.I COULDN'T IMAGINE GOD
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I COULDN'T IMAGINE GODDELIGHTING IN ME BECAUSE I
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DELIGHTING IN ME BECAUSE IWAS SUCH A BROKEN LITTLE
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WAS SUCH A BROKEN LITTLEGIRL THAT I THOUGHT, I'VE
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GIRL THAT I THOUGHT, I'VEJUST GOT TO WORK REALLY
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JUST GOT TO WORK REALLYHARD TO PROVE THAT HIM
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HARD TO PROVE THAT HIMSAVING ME WASN'T SOMETHING
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SAVING ME WASN'T SOMETHINGTHAT HE WOULD LATER
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THAT HE WOULD LATERREGRET.
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REGRET.I WOULDN'T SAY THAT
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I WOULDN'T SAY THATTHEOLOGICALLY, I WOULD
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THEOLOGICALLY, I WOULDNEVER SAY THAT WAS MY
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NEVER SAY THAT WAS MYDOCTRINE, BUT THAT WAS--
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DOCTRINE, BUT THAT WAS--THAT EMOTIONAL BRAND ON MY
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THAT EMOTIONAL BRAND ON MYHEART OF THERE'S NO WAY A
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HEART OF THERE'S NO WAY AGOD LIKE THAT COULD
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GOD LIKE THAT COULDACTUALLY DELIGHT IN A
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ACTUALLY DELIGHT IN AWOMAN LIKE ME.
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WOMAN LIKE ME.IT'S TAKEN YEARS FOR GOD
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IT'S TAKEN YEARS FOR GODTO UNWIND THOSE UNTRUTHS.
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TO UNWIND THOSE UNTRUTHS.- JOYCE: WHEN I FIRST
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- JOYCE: WHEN I FIRSTSTARTED--
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STARTED--WHEN MY MINISTRY FIRST
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WHEN MY MINISTRY FIRSTSTARTED GROWING, I REMEMBER
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STARTED GROWING, I REMEMBERSO MANY PEOPLE SAYING, NOW,
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SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING, NOW,DON'T GET SO BIG THAT
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DON'T GET SO BIG THATYOU'RE TOO GOOD TO COME
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YOU'RE TOO GOOD TO COMETO US.
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TO US.WELL, WHEN MY MINISTRY DID
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WELL, WHEN MY MINISTRY DIDGET BIGGER AND I COULDN'T
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GET BIGGER AND I COULDN'TJUST GO DO EVERY
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JUST GO DO EVERYNINE-PERSON BIBLE STUDY,
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NINE-PERSON BIBLE STUDY,YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD COME
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YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD COMEBACK TO ME ALL THE TIME.
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BACK TO ME ALL THE TIME.I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK
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I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINKI THINK I'M TOO GOOD TO
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I THINK I'M TOO GOOD TOGO.
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GO.SO I WOULD JUST SAY YES TO
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SO I WOULD JUST SAY YES TOEVERYTHING AND I LITERALLY
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EVERYTHING AND I LITERALLYJUST WAS MAKING MYSELF
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JUST WAS MAKING MYSELFSICK.
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SICK.I WAS COMPLETELY
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I WAS COMPLETELYDESTROYING MY HEALTH.
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DESTROYING MY HEALTH.SO, I WAS NOT BEING
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SO, I WAS NOT BEINGPLEASING TO GOD AND SAYING
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PLEASING TO GOD AND SAYINGYES TO EVERYBODY, SOMEBODY
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YES TO EVERYBODY, SOMEBODYSAID SOMETHING TO ME I
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SAID SOMETHING TO ME ITHOUGHT WAS REALLY GOOD.
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THOUGHT WAS REALLY GOOD.THEY SAID, IF YOU KEEP
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THEY SAID, IF YOU KEEPTAKING ALL THE LITTLE
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TAKING ALL THE LITTLETHINGS THAT YOU ARE
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THINGS THAT YOU AREINVITED TO TAKE AND YOU
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INVITED TO TAKE AND YOUWON'T LET ME PROMOTE YOU,
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WON'T LET ME PROMOTE YOU,THEN YOU NEVER MAKE ROOM
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THEN YOU NEVER MAKE ROOMFOR THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE
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FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE HERETHAT ARE WAITING TO MOVE
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THAT ARE WAITING TO MOVEINTO THAT-- SO I WAS
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INTO THAT-- SO I WASACTUALLY REALLY, BY NOT
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ACTUALLY REALLY, BY NOTOBEYING GOD, I WAS
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OBEYING GOD, I WASHINDERING OTHER PEOPLE.
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HINDERING OTHER PEOPLE.- LISA: KIND OF CLOGGING
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- LISA: KIND OF CLOGGINGUP THE PIPE.
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UP THE PIPE.- JOYCE: YEAH.
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- JOYCE: YEAH.I WAS CLOGGING UP THE
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I WAS CLOGGING UP THEPIPE.
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PIPE.SO GOD SHOWED ME IT'S
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SO GOD SHOWED ME IT'SGOOD-- YOU HAVE TO SAY NO
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GOOD-- YOU HAVE TO SAY NOWHEN GOD IS SAYING NO.
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WHEN GOD IS SAYING NO.OTHERWISE, WHEN YOU START,
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OTHERWISE, WHEN YOU START,IT'S TIME TO GO DO THIS
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IT'S TIME TO GO DO THISTHING YOU SAID YES TO AND
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THING YOU SAID YES TO ANDYOU'RE DREADING IT AND
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YOU'RE DREADING IT ANDRESENTING THAT YOU HAVE TO
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RESENTING THAT YOU HAVE TOGO, THEN THERE'S A
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GO, THEN THERE'S APROBLEM.
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PROBLEM.AND ONE THING I'VE MADE MY
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AND ONE THING I'VE MADE MYMIND UP TO, IF I'M GOING
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MIND UP TO, IF I'M GOINGTO SPEND MY LIFE DOING
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TO SPEND MY LIFE DOINGTHIS, I AM GOING TO ENJOY IT.
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THIS, I AM GOING TO ENJOY IT.IF I CAN'T ENJOY WHAT I'M
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IF I CAN'T ENJOY WHAT I'MDOING,.
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DOING,.- CECE: THEN YOU'RE NOT
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- CECE: THEN YOU'RE NOTGONNA DO IT.
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GONNA DO IT.THAT'S GOOD.
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THAT'S GOOD.- ELISABETH: GOD WANTS
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- ELISABETH: GOD WANTSTHAT FOR YOU TOO.
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THAT FOR YOU TOO.HE WANTS YOU TO ENJOY.
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HE WANTS YOU TO ENJOY.HE WANTS TO KNOW THAT YOU
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HE WANTS TO KNOW THAT YOUCAN HAVE THE FULLNESS OF
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CAN HAVE THE FULLNESS OFWHAT HE HAS TO OFFER.
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WHAT HE HAS TO OFFER.AND THAT'S ONE THING I'M
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AND THAT'S ONE THING I'MLIKE, I DON'T ALLOW MYSELF
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LIKE, I DON'T ALLOW MYSELFTHAT SOMETIMES.
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THAT SOMETIMES.HE WANTS THE FULLNESS FOR
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HE WANTS THE FULLNESS FORUS.
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US.- LAURIE: WHEN JESUS-- HE
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- LAURIE: WHEN JESUS-- HEDIDN'T WANT THE OPINION OF
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DIDN'T WANT THE OPINION OFMAN, BECAUSE HE KNEW HOW
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MAN, BECAUSE HE KNEW HOWFICKLE WE ARE.
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FICKLE WE ARE.ONE DAY THEY ARE FOR US,
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ONE DAY THEY ARE FOR US,ONE DAY THEY'RE AGAINST US.
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ONE DAY THEY'RE AGAINST US.SO HE KNOWS THAT AND WE
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SO HE KNOWS THAT AND WENEED TO LIVE THE SAME WAY
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NEED TO LIVE THE SAME WAYTHAT-- I LOVE YOU AND I
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THAT-- I LOVE YOU AND IWANT YOU TO LOVE ME.
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WANT YOU TO LOVE ME.BUT I CAN'T LIVE FOR YOU.
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BUT I CAN'T LIVE FOR YOU.I HAVE TO LIVE FOR HIM.
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I HAVE TO LIVE FOR HIM.AND SO, KEEP THAT IN MIND.
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AND SO, KEEP THAT IN MIND.BECAUSE I KNOW TOMORROW
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BECAUSE I KNOW TOMORROWYOU COULD TURN AGAINST--
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YOU COULD TURN AGAINST--YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
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YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.- LISA: ABSOLUTELY.
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- LISA: ABSOLUTELY.- LAURIE: AND HE IS THE
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- LAURIE: AND HE IS THEONLY CONSTANT, CONSTANT,
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ONLY CONSTANT, CONSTANT,CONSTANT IN OUR LIVES.
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CONSTANT IN OUR LIVES.- CECE: THAT'S RIGHT.
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- CECE: THAT'S RIGHT.- JOYCE: I WANT YOU TO
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- JOYCE: I WANT YOU TOLIKE ME BUT I WILL SURVIVE
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LIKE ME BUT I WILL SURVIVEEVEN IF YOU DON'T.
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EVEN IF YOU DON'T.- LAURIE: YOU'RE JUST
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- LAURIE: YOU'RE JUSTGONNA HAVE TO GO ON, IF
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GONNA HAVE TO GO ON, IFYOU DON'T.
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YOU DON'T.- CECE: PEOPLE PLEASING
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- CECE: PEOPLE PLEASINGIT WILL EXHAUST YOU, IT'S
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IT WILL EXHAUST YOU, IT'SEXHAUSTING.
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EXHAUSTING.IT'S LIKE LIVING ON A
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IT'S LIKE LIVING ON AROLLER COASTER.
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ROLLER COASTER.AND FOR ALL OF US WHO LIVE
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AND FOR ALL OF US WHO LIVEIN THE PUBLIC EYE A LOT--
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IN THE PUBLIC EYE A LOT--- LAURIE: WE HAVE TO
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- LAURIE: WE HAVE TOLEARN THAT.
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LEARN THAT.- CECE: --I HAD TO LEARN
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- CECE: --I HAD TO LEARNTHAT REALLY, REALLY QUICK.
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THAT REALLY, REALLY QUICK.SINGING, CUZ ONE WEEK
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SINGING, CUZ ONE WEEKEVERYBODY LIKES YOUR SONG
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EVERYBODY LIKES YOUR SONGAND THE NEXT WEEK, IT'S
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AND THE NEXT WEEK, IT'SREALLY NOT GOOD AT ALL.
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REALLY NOT GOOD AT ALL.SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
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SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTANDTHAT PLEASING GOD PUTS YOU
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THAT PLEASING GOD PUTS YOUIN A POSITION TO BE A
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IN A POSITION TO BE ABLESSING TO PEOPLE.
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BLESSING TO PEOPLE.BUT WHEN SHE SAID THAT, IF
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BUT WHEN SHE SAID THAT, IFYOU DON'T, REALLY, IF YOU
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YOU DON'T, REALLY, IF YOUDON'T LEARN TO SAY NO,
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DON'T LEARN TO SAY NO,YOU'RE NOT IN A POSITION
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YOU'RE NOT IN A POSITIONTO SAY YES.
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TO SAY YES.- LISA: EXACTLY.
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- LISA: EXACTLY.- CECE: YOU DON'T EVEN
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- CECE: YOU DON'T EVENHAVE TIME TO SAY YES TO
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HAVE TIME TO SAY YES TOWHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
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WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TOSAY YES TO.
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SAY YES TO.- JOYCE: YOU CAN'T SAY
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- JOYCE: YOU CAN'T SAYYES TO WHAT YOU'RE
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YES TO WHAT YOU'RESUPPOSED TO SAY YES TO.
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SUPPOSED TO SAY YES TO.- CECE: BECAUSE YOU
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- CECE: BECAUSE YOUHAVEN'T SAID NO.
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HAVEN'T SAID NO.- LISA: YOU DON'T HAVE
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- LISA: YOU DON'T HAVETHE JOY AND YOU DON'T HAVE
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THE JOY AND YOU DON'T HAVETHE EASE.
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THE EASE.YOU HAVE THAT, I HAVE SAID
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YOU HAVE THAT, I HAVE SAIDYES TO SO MANY THINGS THAT
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YES TO SO MANY THINGS THATI FELT LIKE AFTERWARDS,
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I FELT LIKE AFTERWARDS,NEVER IN A CAPRICIOUS WAY,
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NEVER IN A CAPRICIOUS WAY,BUT I FELT LIKE GOD WAS
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BUT I FELT LIKE GOD WASLIKE, I THOUGHT I HAD TO
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LIKE, I THOUGHT I HAD TODO THAT.
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DO THAT.I LEARNED IF I SAY SHOULD
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I LEARNED IF I SAY SHOULDIN MY OWN MIND, I DON'T
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IN MY OWN MIND, I DON'TNEED TO SHOULD ALL OVER
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NEED TO SHOULD ALL OVERMYSELF.
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MYSELF.IF IT COMES FROM A PLACE
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IF IT COMES FROM A PLACEOF SHOULD, I HAVE TO BACK
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OF SHOULD, I HAVE TO BACKUP AND GO, LORD, I MIGHT
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UP AND GO, LORD, I MIGHTNOT HAVE HEARD YOU,
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NOT HAVE HEARD YOU,BECAUSE CALLING USUALLY IS
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BECAUSE CALLING USUALLY ISNOT BASED ON A SHOULD.
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NOT BASED ON A SHOULD.THERE IS A JOY, THERE IS
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THERE IS A JOY, THERE ISAN EASE YOU GET TO.
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AN EASE YOU GET TO.ONE OF THE BEST THINGS HE
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ONE OF THE BEST THINGS HEHAS ALLOWED ME TO DO, I
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HAS ALLOWED ME TO DO, IWAS ON A NATIONAL TOUR FOR
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WAS ON A NATIONAL TOUR FORA LITTLE WHILE, CHRISTIAN
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A LITTLE WHILE, CHRISTIANWOMEN'S CONFERENCE AND I
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WOMEN'S CONFERENCE AND IWAS ON TOUR WITH
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WAS ON TOUR WITHLISA WHELCHEL.
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LISA WHELCHEL.I THINK YOU'LL ALL KNOW.
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I THINK YOU'LL ALL KNOW.SHE WAS ON "FACTS OF
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SHE WAS ON "FACTS OFLIFE," A TV SHOW, YOU WERE
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LIFE," A TV SHOW, YOU WEREPROBABLY TOO GODLY TO
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PROBABLY TOO GODLY TOWATCH IT, MISS JOYCE, BUT
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WATCH IT, MISS JOYCE, BUTANYWAY, SHE WAS A SITCOM
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ANYWAY, SHE WAS A SITCOMSTAR FOR YEARS.
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STAR FOR YEARS.WE ARE THE SAME AGE, BUT
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WE ARE THE SAME AGE, BUTLISA IS TEENY, TINY, ABOUT
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LISA IS TEENY, TINY, ABOUTYOUR SIZE, PETITE,
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YOUR SIZE, PETITE,BEAUTIFUL BLOND.
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BEAUTIFUL BLOND.BUT WE HAVE A REAL SIMILAR
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BUT WE HAVE A REAL SIMILARSHAPED HEAD AND SMILE AND
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SHAPED HEAD AND SMILE ANDSO, NOBODY WAS COMING TO
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SO, NOBODY WAS COMING TOWHERE-- PEOPLE ARE LINED
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WHERE-- PEOPLE ARE LINEDUP TO BUY BOOKS, TO SEE
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UP TO BUY BOOKS, TO SEELISA HARPER, THEY THOUGHT
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LISA HARPER, THEY THOUGHTI WAS LISA WHELCHEL.
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I WAS LISA WHELCHEL.AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW
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AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOWMANY THOUSANDS, LITERALLY,
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MANY THOUSANDS, LITERALLY,OF WOMEN, I'D GO,
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OF WOMEN, I'D GO,I'M SORRY.
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I'M SORRY.BECAUSE THEY STOOD IN LINE
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BECAUSE THEY STOOD IN LINEFOR 45 MINUTES THINKING
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FOR 45 MINUTES THINKINGTHEY ARE MEETING LISA
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THEY ARE MEETING LISAWHELCHEL BECAUSE I HAD A
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WHELCHEL BECAUSE I HAD ABIG GRIN AND A BIG HEAD.
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BIG GRIN AND A BIG HEAD.I'M LIKE, I'M SO SORRY.
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I'M LIKE, I'M SO SORRY.SHE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE
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SHE IS ON THE OTHER SIDEOF THE ARENA.
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OF THE ARENA.THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET
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THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GETTHERE BECAUSE THE BREAK
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THERE BECAUSE THE BREAKWAS ONLY SO LONG.
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WAS ONLY SO LONG.IT WAS THE MOST LOVELY
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IT WAS THE MOST LOVELYTHING TO GO-- ALMOST ALL
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THING TO GO-- ALMOST ALLTHE TIME I WAS OUT THERE I
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THE TIME I WAS OUT THERE IWAS DISPLEASING PEOPLE.
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WAS DISPLEASING PEOPLE.BUT I STILL GOT TO BE
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BUT I STILL GOT TO BEPRESENT AND HUG ON THEM
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PRESENT AND HUG ON THEMAND LOVE ON THEM.
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AND LOVE ON THEM.AND SOMETIMES THEY'D BE
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AND SOMETIMES THEY'D BELIKE, (DISAPPOINTEDLY)
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LIKE, (DISAPPOINTEDLY)WELL, WILL YOU SIGN IT?
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WELL, WILL YOU SIGN IT?(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)I WAS TOTALLY THE
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I WAS TOTALLY THECONSOLATION PRIZE.
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CONSOLATION PRIZE.BUT THERE WAS SUCH A
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BUT THERE WAS SUCH ASWEETNESS TO IT BECAUSE I
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SWEETNESS TO IT BECAUSE IFOUND MYSELF GOING, I
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FOUND MYSELF GOING, IDON'T EVER WANT TO HAVE A
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DON'T EVER WANT TO HAVE ASENSE OF ENTITLEMENT WITH
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SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT WITHPEOPLE CLAPPING OR
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PEOPLE CLAPPING ORAPPROVING OF WHAT I DO.
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APPROVING OF WHAT I DO.I WANT TO GO, MAN, IF I
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I WANT TO GO, MAN, IF IGET TO DO THIS, I'M GONNA
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GET TO DO THIS, I'M GONNABRING MY WHOLE HEART TO
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BRING MY WHOLE HEART TOTHE TABLE.
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THE TABLE.BUT IF THERE IS A LAUGH
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BUT IF THERE IS A LAUGHTRACK OR A BOO TRACK THAT
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TRACK OR A BOO TRACK THATDOESN'T MATTER.
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DOESN'T MATTER.IS GOD SMILING AT ME?
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IS GOD SMILING AT ME?- ELISABETH: JOYCE, I
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- ELISABETH: JOYCE, ILOVE WHAT YOU SAID, TOO,
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LOVE WHAT YOU SAID, TOO,ABOUT YOU COULD ALMOST BE
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ABOUT YOU COULD ALMOST BESTEALING SOMEONE ELSE'S
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STEALING SOMEONE ELSE'SYES.
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YES.THAT WAS SO GOOD.
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THAT WAS SO GOOD.IF YOU ARE TAKEN IN WHEN
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IF YOU ARE TAKEN IN WHENYOU DON'T FEEL CALLED INTO
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YOU DON'T FEEL CALLED INTOIT-- I ALSO THINK EVERYONE
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IT-- I ALSO THINK EVERYONEGOT A PRETTY GOOD DEAL
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GOT A PRETTY GOOD DEALCOMING UP AND GETTING YOUR
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COMING UP AND GETTING YOURSMILE YOU BLESSED THEIR
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SMILE YOU BLESSED THEIRDAY.
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DAY.I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE,
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I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE,SWEET!
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SWEET!I WILL BE REALLY HONEST.
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I WILL BE REALLY HONEST.I FEEL LIKE-- I THINK I
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I FEEL LIKE-- I THINK IHAVE SUCH AN OUT LOUD
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HAVE SUCH AN OUT LOUDPEOPLE PLEASER WAY ABOUT
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PEOPLE PLEASER WAY ABOUTME THAT IT ALMOST IS MORE
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ME THAT IT ALMOST IS MOREINSIDE WHERE I DEAL WITH
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INSIDE WHERE I DEAL WITHWHAT I CALL F.O.L.P.D.,
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WHAT I CALL F.O.L.P.D.,FEAR OF LETTING PEOPLE
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FEAR OF LETTING PEOPLEDOWN.
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DOWN.IT'S NOT THAT I WON'T
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IT'S NOT THAT I WON'TPLEASE THEM, IT'S THAT I
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PLEASE THEM, IT'S THAT IALMOST MAKE MYSELF SO-- I
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ALMOST MAKE MYSELF SO-- IMUST MAKE MYSELF SO SUPER
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MUST MAKE MYSELF SO SUPERNECESSARY, YOU KNOW?
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NECESSARY, YOU KNOW?(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)I'M A UTILITY PLAYER HERE.
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I'M A UTILITY PLAYER HERE.AND IF I DON'T DO THIS,
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AND IF I DON'T DO THIS,THE WHOLE THING'S GONNA--
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THE WHOLE THING'S GONNA--EVERYONE'S GONNA BE LET
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EVERYONE'S GONNA BE LETDOWN.
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DOWN.AND IT'S GOT TO BE SO
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AND IT'S GOT TO BE SOSELF-CENTERED.
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SELF-CENTERED.DO I THINK I'M NOT
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DO I THINK I'M NOTNECESSARY?
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NECESSARY?(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)REALLY?
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REALLY?SO, I JUST THINK, THAT
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SO, I JUST THINK, THATCAME TO ME RIGHT NOW.
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CAME TO ME RIGHT NOW.IT'S NOT EVEN, WHATEVER.
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IT'S NOT EVEN, WHATEVER.BUT I DO THINK IT IS THAT
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BUT I DO THINK IT IS THATSNARE IN PROVERBS.
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SNARE IN PROVERBS.I DID WRITE DOWN, "THE FEAR
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I DID WRITE DOWN, "THE FEAROF MAN LAYS A SNARE, BUT
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OF MAN LAYS A SNARE, BUTWHOEVER TRUSTS IN THE LORD
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WHOEVER TRUSTS IN THE LORDIS SAFE."
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IS SAFE."AND IT'S LIKE, I MUST NOT
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AND IT'S LIKE, I MUST NOTTRUST THAT GOD,
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TRUST THAT GOD,IF I SAY NO, OR EVEN IF I
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IF I SAY NO, OR EVEN IF IMESS UP, I THINK IT IS
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MESS UP, I THINK IT ISBECAUSE I STILL HAVE A LOT
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BECAUSE I STILL HAVE A LOTOF YESES AND I'M WORKING
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OF YESES AND I'M WORKINGTO LIKE SHIFT OVER TO, CAN
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TO LIKE SHIFT OVER TO, CANI LET YOU KNOW THE NO
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I LET YOU KNOW THE NOTOMORROW?
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TOMORROW?I DON'T WANT TO LET YOU
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I DON'T WANT TO LET YOUDOWN.
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DOWN.F.O.L.P.D.
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F.O.L.P.D.ACROSS MY T SHIRT.
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ACROSS MY T SHIRT.BUT I DO THINK IT'S THAT
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BUT I DO THINK IT'S THATFEELING OF, GOD, YOU WILL
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FEELING OF, GOD, YOU WILLTAKE CARE OF THIS AND YOU
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TAKE CARE OF THIS AND YOUWILL SUPPLY ALL THAT'S
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WILL SUPPLY ALL THAT'SNEEDED FOR THE NEXT PERSON
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NEEDED FOR THE NEXT PERSONWHO HAS THE YES THAT YOU
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WHO HAS THE YES THAT YOUWANT TO OFFER THEM IN
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WANT TO OFFER THEM INTHIS.
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THIS.AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO--
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AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO--HE'D SAY TO ME, STOP
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HE'D SAY TO ME, STOPCREATING IDOLS OUT OF
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CREATING IDOLS OUT OFPEOPLE AROUND YOU.
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PEOPLE AROUND YOU.I DID IT FOR SO LONG,
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I DID IT FOR SO LONG,BETSY IS WATCHING, MY
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BETSY IS WATCHING, MYMOTHER-IN-LAW, SO WE'D
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MOTHER-IN-LAW, SO WE'DTALK ABOUT IT.
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TALK ABOUT IT.I COULD HAVE HAD A SWEET
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I COULD HAVE HAD A SWEETSPOT OF FIVE YEARS, I THINK,
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SPOT OF FIVE YEARS, I THINK,WITH HER WHERE I WAS SO
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WITH HER WHERE I WAS SOINTENT ON NOT LETTING MY
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INTENT ON NOT LETTING MYMOTHER-IN-LAW DOWN THAT I
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MOTHER-IN-LAW DOWN THAT IDIDN'T-- I DIDN'T APPROACH
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DIDN'T-- I DIDN'T APPROACHHER WITHOUT FEAR OF LIKE,
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HER WITHOUT FEAR OF LIKE,I WANTED TO PROVE TO HER
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I WANTED TO PROVE TO HERALL THE TIME THAT I'M AN
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ALL THE TIME THAT I'M ANAMAZING WIFE TO TIM.
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AMAZING WIFE TO TIM.SHE LOVED ON HIM SO WELL,
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SHE LOVED ON HIM SO WELL,HE WAS GOING TO BE IN THE
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HE WAS GOING TO BE IN THEBEST HANDS.
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BEST HANDS.AND I, IN MY MOST LIKE
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AND I, IN MY MOST LIKECONFESSED VERSION, I THINK
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CONFESSED VERSION, I THINKI JUST-- GOD HAS
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I JUST-- GOD HASMULTIPLIED THOSE MINUTES
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MULTIPLIED THOSE MINUTESSO WELL SINCE THE DAY I
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SO WELL SINCE THE DAY IDECIDED TO NOT IDOLIZE HER
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DECIDED TO NOT IDOLIZE HERBUT JUST HUG HER AS MY
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BUT JUST HUG HER AS MYSISTER IN CHRIST WHO
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SISTER IN CHRIST WHORAISED THE MAN OF MY
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RAISED THE MAN OF MYDREAMS AND THAT I WAS
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DREAMS AND THAT I WASGOING TO PROBABLY LET HER
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GOING TO PROBABLY LET HERDOWN SOMETIMES, I WAS
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DOWN SOMETIMES, I WASGOING TO MESS THINGS UP,
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GOING TO MESS THINGS UP,BUT I NEEDED TO STOP
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BUT I NEEDED TO STOPMAKING HER MY IDOL BECAUSE
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MAKING HER MY IDOL BECAUSETHAT'S GOD'S JOB
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THAT'S GOD'S JOBDESCRIPTION.
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DESCRIPTION.HE IS SOVEREIGN.
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HE IS SOVEREIGN.HE IS OVER EVERYTHING AND
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HE IS OVER EVERYTHING ANDTHERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO
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THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DOTO GET OUT OF HIS LOVE,
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TO GET OUT OF HIS LOVE,LIKE NOTHING, BUT I WAS
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LIKE NOTHING, BUT I WASGIVING HER THAT POSITION.
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GIVING HER THAT POSITION.AND IT HAS BEEN SO MUCH
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AND IT HAS BEEN SO MUCHMORE SWEET.
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MORE SWEET.AND I THINK SO MANY WOMEN
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AND I THINK SO MANY WOMENSTRUGGLE WITH THAT BECAUSE
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STRUGGLE WITH THAT BECAUSETHEY PLACE THIS WOMAN THAT
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THEY PLACE THIS WOMAN THATTHEY JUST LOVE AND HONOR
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THEY JUST LOVE AND HONORWHERE THEY ARE NOT
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WHERE THEY ARE NOTSUPPOSED TO BE.
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SUPPOSED TO BE.AND SHE BIRTHED THE MAN OF
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AND SHE BIRTHED THE MAN OFMY DREAMS, RAISED HIM TO
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MY DREAMS, RAISED HIM TOLOVE ME SO WELL.
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LOVE ME SO WELL.I IDOLIZED HER FOR THAT
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I IDOLIZED HER FOR THATBUT THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD'S
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BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD'SASKING ME TO DO.
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ASKING ME TO DO.SO I OPERATED IN THIS FEAR
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SO I OPERATED IN THIS FEAROF LETTING HER DOWN FOR SO
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OF LETTING HER DOWN FOR SOMANY YEARS.
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MANY YEARS.AND NOW OUR RELATIONSHIP
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AND NOW OUR RELATIONSHIPIS SO SWEET BECAUSE I'M
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IS SO SWEET BECAUSE I'MLIKE, I'M NOT IDOLIZING
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LIKE, I'M NOT IDOLIZINGYOU ANYMORE.
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YOU ANYMORE.I'M ACTUALLY NOT AFRAID TO
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I'M ACTUALLY NOT AFRAID TOLET YOU DOWN.
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LET YOU DOWN.I DON'T WANT TO AND I HONOR
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I DON'T WANT TO AND I HONORYOU, BUT BETSY AND I HAVE
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YOU, BUT BETSY AND I HAVETHIS SWEET RELATIONSHIP
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THIS SWEET RELATIONSHIPNOW.
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NOW.WE'RE SISTERS.
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WE'RE SISTERS.- LISA: IT'S INTERESTING
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- LISA: IT'S INTERESTINGTHAT YOU ALMOST CAME ALL
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THAT YOU ALMOST CAME ALLTHE WAY BACK TO WHAT JOYCE
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THE WAY BACK TO WHAT JOYCESTARTED WITH, TALKING
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STARTED WITH, TALKINGABOUT THE WOMAN WHO WAS
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ABOUT THE WOMAN WHO WASTHE GATE KEEPER AT THE
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THE GATE KEEPER AT THECHURCH WHEN YOU WERE
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CHURCH WHEN YOU WEREYOUNGER AND HOW YOU DID
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YOUNGER AND HOW YOU DIDEVERYTHING YOU COULD.
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EVERYTHING YOU COULD.AND WHEN BOTH OF YOU WERE
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AND WHEN BOTH OF YOU WERETALKING, IT REMINDS ME OF
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TALKING, IT REMINDS ME OF1 THESSALONIANS WHERE
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1 THESSALONIANS WHEREPAUL SAYS, "BUT JUST AS WE
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PAUL SAYS, "BUT JUST AS WEHAVE BEEN APPROVED BY GOD
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HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY GODTO BE ENTRUSTED WITH THE
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TO BE ENTRUSTED WITH THEGOSPEL, SO WE SPEAK NOT TO
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GOSPEL, SO WE SPEAK NOT TOPLEASE MAN BUT TO PLEASE
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PLEASE MAN BUT TO PLEASEGOD, WHO TESTS OUR HEARTS,
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GOD, WHO TESTS OUR HEARTS,FOR WE NEVER CAME WITH
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FOR WE NEVER CAME WITHWORDS OF FLATTERY."
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WORDS OF FLATTERY."AND I USED TO LOVE THE
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AND I USED TO LOVE THESECOND PART OF THAT VERSE
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SECOND PART OF THAT VERSEBECAUSE IT SAYS THAT WE
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BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT WELOVED YOU AS A MOTHER
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LOVED YOU AS A MOTHERLOVES HER CHILDREN.
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LOVES HER CHILDREN.AND I THOUGHT, THAT'S WHAT
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AND I THOUGHT, THAT'S WHATI IDENTIFY WITH.
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I IDENTIFY WITH.I WANT TO MOTHER THE
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I WANT TO MOTHER THEPEOPLE I GET TO MINISTER
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PEOPLE I GET TO MINISTERWITH AND I USED TO IGNORE
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WITH AND I USED TO IGNORETHE FIRST PART OF THAT
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THE FIRST PART OF THATPASSAGE.
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PASSAGE.THEN I GO, LISA, HOW OFTEN
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THEN I GO, LISA, HOW OFTENDO YOU COME TO OTHER
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DO YOU COME TO OTHERPEOPLE WITH FLATTERY?
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PEOPLE WITH FLATTERY?I STARTED CHECKING MYSELF.
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I STARTED CHECKING MYSELF.BECAUSE IF I'M FLATTERING,
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BECAUSE IF I'M FLATTERING,I'M USUALLY TRYING TO
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I'M USUALLY TRYING TOGREASE THE SKIDS TO MAKE
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GREASE THE SKIDS TO MAKETHEM LIKE ME, TO GET
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THEM LIKE ME, TO GETSOMETHING.
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SOMETHING.ENCOURAGEMENT AND FLATTERY
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ENCOURAGEMENT AND FLATTERYFEEL TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
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FEEL TOTALLY DIFFERENT.ENCOURAGEMENT COMES FROM A
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ENCOURAGEMENT COMES FROM AHEART THAT I FIND MY
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HEART THAT I FIND MYIDENTITY AND CONTENTMENT
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IDENTITY AND CONTENTMENTIN CHRIST, SO I'M
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IN CHRIST, SO I'MSINCERELY SAYING I HAD TO
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SINCERELY SAYING I HAD TOPULL THE SUNROOF BACK AND
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PULL THE SUNROOF BACK ANDRAISE MY HANDS OUT WHEN I
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RAISE MY HANDS OUT WHEN IWAS LISTENING TO YOU
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WAS LISTENING TO YOUWORSHIP IN THE CAR.
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WORSHIP IN THE CAR.THAT'S NOT FLATTERY.
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THAT'S NOT FLATTERY.BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S
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BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'SPART OF ME MATURING AND
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PART OF ME MATURING ANDBEING LESS OF A PEOPLE
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BEING LESS OF A PEOPLEPERSON IS TO GO, WHEN AM I
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PERSON IS TO GO, WHEN AM ICOMING AT SOMEONE WITH
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COMING AT SOMEONE WITHFLATTERY TO GET THEM TO
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FLATTERY TO GET THEM TOLIKE ME OR GET SOMETHING I
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LIKE ME OR GET SOMETHING IWANT?
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WANT?AND WHEN AM I SINCERELY
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AND WHEN AM I SINCERELYSAYING, THANK YOU FOR
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SAYING, THANK YOU FORBIRTHING THE MAN OF MY
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BIRTHING THE MAN OF MYDREAMS, WHICH I HOPE ONE
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DREAMS, WHICH I HOPE ONEDAY I ACTUALLY GET TO SAY.
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DAY I ACTUALLY GET TO SAY.(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)- ELISABETH: YES, YES,
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- ELISABETH: YES, YES,YES.
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YES.- JOYCE: I THINK WE ALL
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- JOYCE: I THINK WE ALLHAVE TO REALIZE THE BOTTOM
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HAVE TO REALIZE THE BOTTOMLINE IS, IF YOU-- A PERSON
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LINE IS, IF YOU-- A PERSONIS NOT A TRUE FRIEND IF
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IS NOT A TRUE FRIEND IFYOU HAVE TO TELL THEM YES
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YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM YESALL THE TIME TO KEEP THEIR
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ALL THE TIME TO KEEP THEIRFRIENDSHIP.
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FRIENDSHIP.IF SOMEBODY REALLY LOVES
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IF SOMEBODY REALLY LOVESYOU, THEN YOU CAN TELL
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YOU, THEN YOU CAN TELLTHEM NO AND THEY'RE GONNA
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THEM NO AND THEY'RE GONNALOVE YOU JUST AS MUCH IF
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LOVE YOU JUST AS MUCH IFTHEY GOT A NO AS THEY DID
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THEY GOT A NO AS THEY DIDIF THEY GOT A YES.
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IF THEY GOT A YES.AND WE-- I THINK WE ALL
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AND WE-- I THINK WE ALLHAVE TO REALLY KEEP IN
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HAVE TO REALLY KEEP INMIND THAT WE REALLY NEED
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MIND THAT WE REALLY NEEDTO DO WHAT GOD TELLS US
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TO DO WHAT GOD TELLS USTO.
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TO.NOT WHAT-- NOT WHAT'S JUST
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NOT WHAT-- NOT WHAT'S JUSTGONNA MAKE PEOPLE LIKE US,
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GONNA MAKE PEOPLE LIKE US,OR-- I'M VERY COMMITTED IN
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OR-- I'M VERY COMMITTED INMY TEACHING AND PREACHING.
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MY TEACHING AND PREACHING.I'M NOT GOING TO PREACH TO
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I'M NOT GOING TO PREACH TOPLEASE YOU.
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PLEASE YOU.I'M GONNA SAY WHAT I
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I'M GONNA SAY WHAT IBELIEVE GOD IS TELLING ME
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BELIEVE GOD IS TELLING METO SAY.
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TO SAY.AND WHEN YOU'RE IN OUR
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AND WHEN YOU'RE IN OURPOSITION, YOU CAN NEVER DO
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POSITION, YOU CAN NEVER DOONE THING THAT'S GONNA
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ONE THING THAT'S GONNAPLEASE EVERYBODY.
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PLEASE EVERYBODY.I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO.
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I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO.YOU CAN NEVER DO ONE THING
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YOU CAN NEVER DO ONE THINGTHAT'S GONNA PLEASE
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THAT'S GONNA PLEASEEVERYBODY.
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EVERYBODY.SO WHY KEEP TRYING AND
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SO WHY KEEP TRYING ANDLET'S JUST PLEASE ONE
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LET'S JUST PLEASE ONEPERSON, GOD, IT'S A HUGE
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PERSON, GOD, IT'S A HUGESTEP OF FAITH.
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STEP OF FAITH.LIKE I SAID, I'M STILL
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LIKE I SAID, I'M STILLWORKING ON THIS THING
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WORKING ON THIS THINGWITH MY KIDS, IT'S A GOOD
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WITH MY KIDS, IT'S A GOODTHING MY KIDS ARE GOOD
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THING MY KIDS ARE GOODKIDS AND MATURE, BECAUSE
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KIDS AND MATURE, BECAUSETHEY CAN REALLY TAKE
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THEY CAN REALLY TAKEADVANTAGE OF MY WEAKNESS
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ADVANTAGE OF MY WEAKNESSIF THEY WANTED TO.
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IF THEY WANTED TO.(LAUGHTER)
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(LAUGHTER)BUT THEY DON'T.
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BUT THEY DON'T.IT'S KIND OF LIKE
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IT'S KIND OF LIKEEVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS,
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EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS,THIS IS MOM'S THING AND
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THIS IS MOM'S THING ANDWE'RE HELPING HER.
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WE'RE HELPING HER.BECAUSE EVEN IF TWO OF
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BECAUSE EVEN IF TWO OFTHEM ARE FIGHTING, LIKE MY
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THEM ARE FIGHTING, LIKE MYSON MIGHT SAY, I KNOW, I
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SON MIGHT SAY, I KNOW, IKNOW, WE GOT TO GET PEACE.
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KNOW, WE GOT TO GET PEACE.YOU HAVE TO HAVE
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YOU HAVE TO HAVEYOUR PEACE.
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YOUR PEACE.- CECE: I LOVE THAT.
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- CECE: I LOVE THAT.- LISA: I'M THINKING I
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- LISA: I'M THINKING IWANT TO BE GRAFTED IN THE
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WANT TO BE GRAFTED IN THEMEYER FAMILY.
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MEYER FAMILY.HOW ABOUT Y'ALL?
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HOW ABOUT Y'ALL?- JOYCE: I GUESS IF
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- JOYCE: I GUESS IFTHAT'S THE WORST THING I
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THAT'S THE WORST THING IEVER DO, I'LL MAKE IT.
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EVER DO, I'LL MAKE IT.BUT I SUFFERED TERRIBLY
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BUT I SUFFERED TERRIBLYWITH PEOPLE PLEASING.
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WITH PEOPLE PLEASING.LIKE I SAID, I ALMOST
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LIKE I SAID, I ALMOSTKILLED MYSELF PHYSICALLY
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KILLED MYSELF PHYSICALLYTRYING TO DO EVERYTHING
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TRYING TO DO EVERYTHINGTHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANTED
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THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANTEDME TO DO.
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ME TO DO.AND I WOULD DO WHAT
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AND I WOULD DO WHATEVERYBODY WANTED ME TO DO,
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EVERYBODY WANTED ME TO DO,BUT I STILL HAD TO DO WHAT
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BUT I STILL HAD TO DO WHATGOD HAD MADE ME
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GOD HAD MADE MERESPONSIBLE FOR.
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RESPONSIBLE FOR.- CECE: MAN, I THINK WE
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- CECE: MAN, I THINK WEMISS OUT ON SO MANY REAL
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MISS OUT ON SO MANY REALRELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE OF
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RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE OFLETTING ALL THOSE THINGS
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LETTING ALL THOSE THINGSGET IN THE WAY.
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GET IN THE WAY.- JOYCE: LOVE ME FOR ME,
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- JOYCE: LOVE ME FOR ME,NOT BECAUSE I DO
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NOT BECAUSE I DOEVERYTHING YOU WANT ME TO.
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EVERYTHING YOU WANT ME TO.AND TRUST ME IF I TELL
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AND TRUST ME IF I TELLYOU I CAN'T DO THAT.
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YOU I CAN'T DO THAT.TRUST ME THAT I'M NOT
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TRUST ME THAT I'M NOTLIKE-- IT'S NOT THAT I
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LIKE-- IT'S NOT THAT IDON'T WANT TO DO IT FOR
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DON'T WANT TO DO IT FORYOU, IT'S JUST-- IT'S NOT
00:23:03.972 --> 00:23:05.173
YOU, IT'S JUST-- IT'S NOTTHE WISE THING FOR ME TO
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THE WISE THING FOR ME TODO.
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DO.OR IT'S NOT THE THING THAT
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OR IT'S NOT THE THING THATGOD WANTS ME TO DO.
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GOD WANTS ME TO DO.THE OLDER YOU GET, THE
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THE OLDER YOU GET, THEBOLDER YOU GET.
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BOLDER YOU GET.- LAURIE: I'M FEELING IT
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- LAURIE: I'M FEELING ITCOME ON.
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COME ON.- CECE: OH, YEAH, ME TOO.
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- CECE: OH, YEAH, ME TOO.- JOYCE: I KIND OF
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- JOYCE: I KIND OFSNICKERED WHEN YOU SAID
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SNICKERED WHEN YOU SAIDYOU WERE 57.
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YOU WERE 57.I THOUGHT-- (MAKES FACE)
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I THOUGHT-- (MAKES FACE)I'M 77.
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I'M 77.SO-- (LAUGHTER)
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SO-- (LAUGHTER)I KNOW A LOT BY NOW BUT
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I KNOW A LOT BY NOW BUTI'VE HAD TO PAY THE PRICE
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I'VE HAD TO PAY THE PRICETO GET IT ALL TOO.
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TO GET IT ALL TOO.I'VE WALKED THROUGH ALL
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I'VE WALKED THROUGH ALLTHESE THINGS.
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THESE THINGS.FOR ME TO GET TO THE POINT
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FOR ME TO GET TO THE POINTWHERE I WOULD SAY NO TO
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WHERE I WOULD SAY NO TOSOMEBODY THAT I ADMIRED,
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SOMEBODY THAT I ADMIRED,BECAUSE I KNEW THAT NO WAS
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BECAUSE I KNEW THAT NO WASGOING TO BE A WISER THING
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GOING TO BE A WISER THINGFOR ME, IT TOOK A LOT OF
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FOR ME, IT TOOK A LOT OFSUFFERING AND ASKING GOD
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SUFFERING AND ASKING GODTO HELP ME.
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TO HELP ME.SO, I GET IT.
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SO, I GET IT.I UNDERSTAND.
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I UNDERSTAND.I KNOW THERE'S ALL KINDS
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I KNOW THERE'S ALL KINDSOF PEOPLE WATCHING US THAT
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OF PEOPLE WATCHING US THATARE IN BONDAGE TO PEOPLE
00:24:01.663 --> 00:24:03.698
ARE IN BONDAGE TO PEOPLEPLEASING.
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PLEASING.I SO MUCH WANT THEM TO
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I SO MUCH WANT THEM TOREALIZE, GOD IS NOT
00:24:09.004 --> 00:24:10.238
REALIZE, GOD IS NOTCALLING THEM TO PLEASE
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CALLING THEM TO PLEASEEVERYBODY ELSE.
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EVERYBODY ELSE.YES, I WANT YOU TO BE
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YES, I WANT YOU TO BEPLEASED WITH ME, BUT I
00:24:16.578 --> 00:24:18.280
PLEASED WITH ME, BUT ICAN'T AFFORD TO DISOBEY
00:24:18.280 --> 00:24:19.147
CAN'T AFFORD TO DISOBEYGOD.
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GOD.- CECE: YOU CAN'T.
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- CECE: YOU CAN'T.- JOYCE: IN ORDER FOR YOU
00:24:22.117 --> 00:24:23.952
- JOYCE: IN ORDER FOR YOUTO BE PLEASED WITH ME.
00:24:23.952 --> 00:24:24.786
TO BE PLEASED WITH ME.YOU EITHER ARE OR YOU'RE
00:24:24.786 --> 00:24:25.820
YOU EITHER ARE OR YOU'RENOT.
00:24:25.820 --> 00:24:26.354
NOT.- LAURIE: WOULD YOU PRAY
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- LAURIE: WOULD YOU PRAYFOR US?
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FOR US?- JOYCE: YEAH.
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- JOYCE: YEAH.FATHER, WE COME TO YOU IN
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FATHER, WE COME TO YOU INJESUS' NAME.
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JESUS' NAME.HONESTLY, LORD, I FEEL SO
00:24:31.326 --> 00:24:33.662
HONESTLY, LORD, I FEEL SOBAD FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE
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BAD FOR PEOPLE THAT AREJUST BEGINNING TO MAYBE
00:24:37.232 --> 00:24:38.300
JUST BEGINNING TO MAYBECONFRONT THE SITUATION IN
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CONFRONT THE SITUATION INTHEIR LIFE.
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THEIR LIFE.BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT
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BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT ITTAKES.
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TAKES.SO I ASK YOU TO GIVE THEM
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SO I ASK YOU TO GIVE THEMREAL COURAGE.
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REAL COURAGE.I CAN'T ASK YOU TO TAKE
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I CAN'T ASK YOU TO TAKEAWAY EVERYTHING THAT'S
00:24:50.045 --> 00:24:51.479
AWAY EVERYTHING THAT'SHARD FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU
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HARD FOR THEM BECAUSE YOUWANT US TO GO THROUGH HARD
00:24:53.048 --> 00:24:55.417
WANT US TO GO THROUGH HARDTHINGS UNTIL THEY ARE NO
00:24:55.417 --> 00:24:57.385
THINGS UNTIL THEY ARE NOLONGER HARD FOR US.
00:24:57.385 --> 00:24:59.154
LONGER HARD FOR US.BUT I DO ASK YOU TO GIVE
00:24:59.154 --> 00:25:00.422
BUT I DO ASK YOU TO GIVETHEM REAL COURAGE AND TO
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THEM REAL COURAGE AND TOTAKE THE TIME TO THINK
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TAKE THE TIME TO THINKABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE
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ABOUT WHETHER THEY AREREALLY SUPPOSED TO DO
00:25:05.393 --> 00:25:05.994
REALLY SUPPOSED TO DOSOMETHING OR NOT.
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SOMETHING OR NOT.IF THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED
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IF THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSEDTO DO IT TO BE ABLE TO SAY
00:25:08.997 --> 00:25:13.401
TO DO IT TO BE ABLE TO SAYNO AND ALWAYS KNOW THAT
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NO AND ALWAYS KNOW THATIT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO
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IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TOPLEASE YOU THAN IT IS TO
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PLEASE YOU THAN IT IS TOPLEASE ANYBODY.
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PLEASE ANYBODY.I PRAY FOR THEIR FREEDOM.
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I PRAY FOR THEIR FREEDOM.I PRAY FOR THEIR
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I PRAY FOR THEIRDELIVERANCE, I PRAY THAT
00:25:22.444 --> 00:25:23.144
DELIVERANCE, I PRAY THATTHEY WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY
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THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOYEVERY DAY OF THEIR LIFE BY
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EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIFE BYKNOWING THAT WHATEVER THEY
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KNOWING THAT WHATEVER THEYARE DOING IS RIGHT IN THE
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ARE DOING IS RIGHT IN THECENTER OF YOUR WILL.
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CENTER OF YOUR WILL.I ASK IT IN JESUS' NAME.
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I ASK IT IN JESUS' NAME.AMEN.
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AMEN.- CECE: AMEN.
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- CECE: AMEN.- LAURIE: CONNECT WITH US
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- LAURIE: CONNECT WITH USON SOCIAL MEDIA.
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ON SOCIAL MEDIA.AND LET US KNOW HOW OUR
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AND LET US KNOW HOW OURTEAM CAN PRAY FOR YOU.
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TEAM CAN PRAY FOR YOU.- LAURIE: NEXT TIME ON
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- LAURIE: NEXT TIME ON"BETTER TOGETHER."
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"BETTER TOGETHER."- CECE: SO IN ORDER TO
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- CECE: SO IN ORDER TOEMBRACE YOUR FUTURE, YOU
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EMBRACE YOUR FUTURE, YOUHAVE TO LET GO OF
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HAVE TO LET GO OFYOUR PAST.
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YOUR PAST.- LAURIE: WATCH
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- LAURIE: WATCH"BETTER TOGETHER" WEEKDAYS
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"BETTER TOGETHER" WEEKDAYSAND TUESDAY NIGHTS,
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Better Together LIVE | Episode 124

Better Together LIVE | Episode 124

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Better Together LIVE | Episode 124

Better Together LIVE | Episode 124

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