Better Together LIVE | Episode 101
September 7, 2020
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In a noisy world full of distractions; chaos; and confusion we seek an anchor. Let's talk about the real source of truth. | TBN Prayer Line: 1-888-731-1000
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Better Together LIVE | Episode 101
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- - God's quietest voice
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- is still louder thanthe noise of the world.
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- He is the source of truth andour anchor in times of chaos.
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- Today, we're learning howto silence the distractions
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- and focus on thehope of the gospel.
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- Come on, join us.
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- (light upbeat music)
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- - I don't know how, I don'tknow how you've all been doing
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- during this pandemicand being at home.
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- I mean, for the first coupleof, well, maybe a first month,
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- I just thought,"This is amazing."
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- I mean, I'm used to beingon the road all the time,
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- like most of you.
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- I stayed in my jammies,
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- I binged watched "TheGreat British Baking Show"
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- on Netflix,
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- and then I found myselfgetting really discouraged,
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- and really, feeling really down.
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- And, you know, allsorts of feelings,
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- and some mornings,honestly, I would wake up
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- with a feeling ofdread in my spirit,
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- which I'm really not used to.
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- And so, I began reallyasking the Holy Spirit,
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- how do I live in these days?
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- I know how to live in thedays that I'm used to,
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- but how do I live in these days?
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- And one of the thingsthat has been helping me
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- stay focused on what's true,
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- no matter what I mightfeel is true at the moment,
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- is I've begun prayingthe Psalms out loud.
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- You know, I'll goout every morning,
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- we live in a townhome andwe have a little balcony,
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- and I'll just goout on the balcony
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- and I will praya Psalm out loud.
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- And I discovered, it's so good
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- for my ears to hear whatmy eyes are reading.
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- And I've found thatduring this season,
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- and honestly, I think Iwill continue to do this,
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- but I think it was, who was it?
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- Yeah, Ambrose, the Bishopof Milan, said that,
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- "The Psalms are like agymnasium for your soul.
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- If you want to know how to pray
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- and how to work out your soul,
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- then the Psalmsare a great way."
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- You know, it's like,
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- I feel like God gave thePsalms to the people of God
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- so that they couldpray them back to God.
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- And I found that whatever I'mfeeling during that season,
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- I'll find myself in the Psalms.
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- You know, there's lament,
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- there's joy, there'sdespair, there's hope,
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- that is helping me stayfocused on what's true
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- during a season whereeverything seems to be shifting.
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- What about you Loriann?
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- - Yeah, I love that Sheila.
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- The Psalms have beenincredibly powerful for me
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- my entire life.
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- Psalms 91 is something thatI've been speaking over my life
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- every single day.
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- So that's how I start my day,then go to Ephesians six,
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- and then I go into the Proverbs,
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- because I find in thisseason, I need wisdom,
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- wisdom unlike anyother time in my life.
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- Having been throughSeptember 11th,
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- having been throughthe 2008, 2009 crisis,
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- this has been differentthan anything else
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- that I have ever experienced.
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- All of those things haveprepared me for this,
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- but I've never been prepared
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- for the amount of isolationthrough this season.
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- I'm so accustomed, as you said,
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- to being on a planeand in boardrooms,
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- and now I'm, what Iwould call, zoomed out.
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- I'm so tired of being onthe Zoom conference calls.
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- The only benefit of beingon Zoom conference calls
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- is that I don't have towear very painful shoes,
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- which I did for thefirst time this morning,
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- and I thought, whathave we been thinking
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- wearing high heelsall of our lives?
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- But nevertheless, thePsalms opens our heart
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- and the Proverbs embedswisdom in our heart.
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- Stephanie, how are youfeeling in this season?
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- - I love that you eventalked about wisdom,
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- because I just think about thescripture that talks about,
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- "You shall know the truth andthe truth shall set you free,"
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- but then prior tothat, it talks about,
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- "When we abide in the Lord,then we would know the truth,"
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- 'cause in that place of abiding,
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- we become thedisciples of Jesus.
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- And in that intimacy withhim, now we know the truth.
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- And I think in thistime, you know,
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- there is the bondage of,even the false perception,
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- because just likeyou've mentioned,
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- you talked about isolation,
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- and if we don't seeisolation properly
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- then it could looklike rejection,
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- it could look like abandonment,
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- it could look like beingforsaken, being alone.
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- And so, a false perception
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- can actually even keep youin the wrong type of bondage.
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- And so, for me, "Youshall know the truth
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- and the truth shallset you free,"
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- is knowing that Jesus is wisdom
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- for every season and every time.
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- And so, in a time thatwe did not expect,
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- in a time that is nothing likeany of us would have said,
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- "You know what?
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- In 2020, we're gonnabe in a pandemic."
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- (laughs) But the beautiful thing
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- is knowing that Jesus iswisdom, Jesus is truth,
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- and in the momentswhere I could be bound
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- by the false perception of whatis happening in this times,
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- that I can seek him for wisdom,
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- and that wisdom can set me free
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- to really see and grab whatthe season has for all of us.
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- What about you, Elaine?
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- - Yeah, that is so good.
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- It has been so true in mylife to sing out the Psalms,
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- just like Sheila said.
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- I've actually been in a season
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- where I'm rereading the gospels.
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- I'm going back to Jesus'time here on earth
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- and saying, "What are youteaching me today in your word?"
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- And I've been in this, justlike you said Stephanie,
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- about being a disciple.
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- I've been in this, I knewhow to be a disciple,
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- like Sheila said,in that season.
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- I knew how to do it whenI was traveling a lot,
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- or I was doing a lot,
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- but how do I be a disciple
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- when there's no one butmy four kids in my home.
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- And I just felt lost.
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- And so, for me, I've beenback in those gospels,
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- of reading Matthew,and Mark, and Luke,
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- and just really divinginto God's journey,
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- and his teachings,
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- and asking the Lord toteach me in those seasons,
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- and really be, draw mecloser in what he's teaching.
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- And so, I've beensoaking those up
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- in this season of relivingsome of those moments.
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- So that's really, it'sso true to say, you know,
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- I feel so lost.
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- And I feel like I can lookat social media for truth,
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- I can look at my friends,what their truth is,
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- but when I just soak andabide in the presence of God,
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- and in his word, and I doexactly what Sheila says.
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- I speak it out over mylife, over my family,
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- over my situations,over my anxiety,
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- and my fears ofwhat we're facing,
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- I see that I began tochange from the inside out.
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- What's that like for you Lisa?
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- - Well, I'm gonna backpedal
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- because I have to framewhere I'm going next
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- with what a yeah,who I am sometimes.
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- My great delight every summer,even this pandemic summer,
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- is Shark Week on Discovery,
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- and I love Shark Week.
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- So Sheila goesstraight to God's word.
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- I have to start at Shark Week,
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- I'll get to God'sword in just second,
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- but Missy doesn't likewatching the shark shows.
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- My little girl, she's 11,
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- she grew up realclose to the water
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- when she was baby in Haiti,
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- but never went to the water.
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- And so, sharks scare her, theykind of scare and thrill me.
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- Well the other night Iwas watching a shark show
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- and right as Missy walkedupstairs it cut to commercial.
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- And the commercialwas of a movie
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- with a really badcomputer generated shark.
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- It was very obvious thiswas not a real shark
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- in the movie promo.
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- And Missy walked in startled,
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- and then she went,
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- "Oh mama, we don't have to beafraid of that shark, do we?
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- It's not real."
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- And I thought, youknow, boy, truer words
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- have never been spokenabout this season we're in.
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- I feel like everywhere welook, we're seeing sharks.
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- We're seeing sharksdepending on,
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- and it doesn't matter what newschannel is your preference,
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- it's like there's thesescary sharks everywhere.
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- And I felt the Holy Spirit
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- just kind of almost gentlyjab me with a grin and say,
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- "They aren't real Lisa.
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- These sharks that everybodyis trying to scare you with,
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- they aren't real.
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- That's not me, that's not theworld I've created you for,
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- that's not the mindI've given you,
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- that's not where I wantyour heart calibrated."
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- And I found myself,it's so interesting
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- that we've all beentalking about the Psalms,
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- 'cause I found myself
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- right back at thebeginning of this altar,
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- and the Psalms, which Ialways say, Sheila said.
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- - Better, but it's like thejournal of God's people,
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- it records the dancingand the weeping.
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- And at the verybeginning, Psalm 1:1,
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- it says, "Blessed,"
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- and that word inHebrew is "asher",
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- it's actually, "happy",
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- is a great translation.
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- "Happy is the onewho does not walk
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- in the counsel of the wicked,
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- nor stand in the way of sinners,
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- nor sit in the seat of scoffers.
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- But his delight is in the law,of the truth, of the Lord,
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- and on God's truth hemeditates day and night."
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- So I've just foundmyself going back to,
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- okay, I cannot be distractedby what is seemingly scary
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- or disheartening, oreven confusing around me.
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- I have to go back to the truth.
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- And God's word existoutside of time and space.
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- Our God is good.
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- Our God is always for us.
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- And, Sheila, you toldme something years ago.
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- Sheila and I,
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- I used to get to travel withSheila all around the country.
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- We spent 25 weekendstogether every year.
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- But, Sheila, I remember youtelling me a quote from Spurgeon
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- that said, "Show me someonewho's Bible is falling apart,
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- and I can almost promiseyou their life isn't."
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- Do you remember when you told me
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- how important it is to havea Bible that's falling apart,
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- so that your mindwould stay together?
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- - I do, I do remember that.
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- And, gosh, I mean, I thinkwe mentored each other,
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- honestly, I think it wassomething that we were just,
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- we were always indifferent seasons,
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- and we just encouragedeach other along the way.
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- But I am going togo from Shark Week
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- to The National Geographic.
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- (laughing)
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- I was watching somethingthe other night,
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- and it was a lion that was,
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- it was prowling, it was chasing,
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- it was tracking an impala
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- that had got separatedfrom the rest of the flock,
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- which is very unusual.
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- But I watched it.
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- And here was a thingthat blew me away.
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- It did not blink.
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- It just kept it's focusand it didn't blink.
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- And I thought of 1 Peter5:9, where we're told
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- that our enemy is likea lion prowling around,
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- seeking whom he may devour.
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- And I think when we have afocused, intentional enemy,
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- that's where the strengthof the word of God,
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- that's where we needa well-worn Bible,
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- because that truth is deep,deep, deep inside of us.
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- And that's beenlife-giving for me.
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- And interestingly enough,
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- I discovered an impala canrun faster than a lion,
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- but it becomes frozen in fear.
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- - Oh, wow.- And I think that that's one,
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- I don't want us tobe frozen in fear.
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- I want us to befilled with faith,
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- so that we know whose we are.
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- - That's such agood word, Sheila.
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- We're gonna go fromNational Geographic
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- to "Encyclopedia Britannica".
- 00:11:16.298 --> 00:11:18.434
- (laughing)
- 00:11:18.434 --> 00:11:19.935
- So, when I was a littlegirl there was no Google.
- 00:11:19.935 --> 00:11:23.038
- And I was a voracious reader.
- 00:11:23.038 --> 00:11:25.541
- So my mother bought me the"Encyclopedia Britannica".
- 00:11:25.541 --> 00:11:28.944
- Now, Elaine, you'retoo young for this,
- 00:11:28.944 --> 00:11:30.946
- but they don't start you at A.
- 00:11:30.946 --> 00:11:33.682
- They start you with Y.
- 00:11:34.650 --> 00:11:36.952
- So, within a shortperiod of time
- 00:11:36.952 --> 00:11:39.288
- I knew everything aboutYugoslavia and yaks and yams,
- 00:11:39.288 --> 00:11:42.558
- and everything else in between.
- 00:11:42.558 --> 00:11:45.427
- The situation todayreminds me a lot
- 00:11:45.427 --> 00:11:48.864
- of us needing to go back tothe "Encyclopedia Britannica",
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- because it is absolute.
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- It is truth.
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- It is what is stated.
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- Now we have Google.
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- Now we have social media.
- 00:11:59.175 --> 00:12:01.177
- All of those things aredistractions and deceptions.
- 00:12:01.177 --> 00:12:04.847
- So, instead of usgoing to Google,
- 00:12:04.847 --> 00:12:08.450
- we should be going backto the word of God,
- 00:12:08.450 --> 00:12:11.153
- the unbelievable foundationof where we should
- 00:12:11.153 --> 00:12:15.124
- be getting our truthand our strength from.
- 00:12:15.124 --> 00:12:17.960
- - You know what?
- 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:19.195
- What's so amazing aboutwhat you just shared,
- 00:12:19.195 --> 00:12:20.729
- and I might take it back
- 00:12:20.729 --> 00:12:21.964
- to the Animal Planetfor a little bit.
- 00:12:21.964 --> 00:12:23.699
- (laughing)
- 00:12:23.699 --> 00:12:25.201
- You know, when I think aboutthese times that we're in,
- 00:12:25.201 --> 00:12:29.772
- there was a dreamthat the Lord gave me,
- 00:12:29.772 --> 00:12:31.707
- and it was somethingthat really moved me.
- 00:12:31.707 --> 00:12:33.442
- So, the whole earthwas flooded with water.
- 00:12:33.442 --> 00:12:37.213
- And in the water therewere these dolphins,
- 00:12:37.213 --> 00:12:40.249
- just having fun and playing,
- 00:12:40.249 --> 00:12:42.451
- and just having aparty (laughing).
- 00:12:42.451 --> 00:12:44.687
- And when I got out fromthe dream I asked the Lord,
- 00:12:44.687 --> 00:12:47.256
- I said, "Lord, whatdoes this mean?"
- 00:12:47.256 --> 00:12:49.225
- And He said, "The times thatyou're in, they're not..."
- 00:12:49.225 --> 00:12:51.493
- First of all, it's not like Godis bringing the flood again,
- 00:12:51.493 --> 00:12:53.829
- but it was that this is atime of purging and cleansing.
- 00:12:53.829 --> 00:12:56.932
- And he said, "Thedolphins represent
- 00:12:56.932 --> 00:12:58.434
- that what is in thisis not to bring harm."
- 00:12:58.434 --> 00:13:02.137
- And so I love that whenyou talked about the shark,
- 00:13:02.137 --> 00:13:05.007
- and it's like,
- 00:13:05.007 --> 00:13:06.175
- no, that's not ashark to be afraid of,
- 00:13:06.175 --> 00:13:07.343
- there's what appearslike a shark.
- 00:13:07.343 --> 00:13:09.078
- And so when the Lordshowed me these dolphins,
- 00:13:09.078 --> 00:13:11.180
- it was like, wow, this season,
- 00:13:11.180 --> 00:13:12.781
- it's to bring good,it's not of evil.
- 00:13:12.781 --> 00:13:14.950
- And what I love thatwe are talking about
- 00:13:14.950 --> 00:13:16.652
- getting back to the word of God,
- 00:13:16.652 --> 00:13:18.220
- because when we arerooted in the word of God
- 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:20.422
- and the foundation of truth,
- 00:13:20.422 --> 00:13:22.157
- then we realize, justlike the word of God says,
- 00:13:22.157 --> 00:13:24.460
- that even what seemsthat is coming as evil,
- 00:13:24.460 --> 00:13:28.230
- God can use it for his good.
- 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:29.865
- And so what I love about that
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- is that now we are rootedin a place of love,
- 00:13:31.467 --> 00:13:34.236
- because when welook at the times
- 00:13:34.236 --> 00:13:36.038
- and we don't understandwhat God is doing,
- 00:13:36.038 --> 00:13:38.140
- because we may not havethe rhema word of God,
- 00:13:38.140 --> 00:13:40.876
- like, God, this is exactly whatyou're doing in this season,
- 00:13:40.876 --> 00:13:43.646
- but when we trustthe heart of God
- 00:13:43.646 --> 00:13:45.748
- and we say, "But thisis what your word says.
- 00:13:45.748 --> 00:13:47.650
- Your word says that you willnever leave nor forsake us.
- 00:13:47.650 --> 00:13:50.119
- Your word says that you willuse all things for our good,
- 00:13:50.119 --> 00:13:53.155
- for those that are calledaccording to your purpose."
- 00:13:53.155 --> 00:13:55.658
- And so when we arerooted in that,
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- then I am approaching thisseason from a place of love,
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- from a place of victory,
- 00:14:00.462 --> 00:14:01.964
- from a place of knowingthat we've conquered this.
- 00:14:01.964 --> 00:14:04.099
- I'm not approachingthis from fear.
- 00:14:04.099 --> 00:14:06.201
- And I think thatwhen we approach life
- 00:14:06.201 --> 00:14:08.103
- from that place of fear,
- 00:14:08.103 --> 00:14:09.538
- now the enemy gets involvedand the enemy reigns,
- 00:14:09.538 --> 00:14:11.974
- because fear says there'signorance about the situation,
- 00:14:11.974 --> 00:14:15.277
- and there is ignorance aboutmy safety in this situation.
- 00:14:15.277 --> 00:14:18.314
- There's ignorance about
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- what is this goingto bring to my life.
- 00:14:19.615 --> 00:14:21.684
- But when we are standingon the word of God,
- 00:14:21.684 --> 00:14:23.852
- we know that thoughI walk through,
- 00:14:23.852 --> 00:14:26.388
- you know, the shadow of death,
- 00:14:26.388 --> 00:14:29.925
- that, God, you are with me.
- 00:14:29.925 --> 00:14:31.627
- You are with me.
- 00:14:31.627 --> 00:14:32.861
- And I think that is themost powerful thing,
- 00:14:32.861 --> 00:14:34.697
- because it's so crazy.
- 00:14:34.697 --> 00:14:36.398
- I think about thestart of the pandemic,
- 00:14:36.398 --> 00:14:38.434
- and the first time I wentto the grocery store,
- 00:14:38.434 --> 00:14:41.503
- you could feel the fear,
- 00:14:41.503 --> 00:14:43.439
- it was so tangible in the store.
- 00:14:44.340 --> 00:14:46.909
- And I was like, thisis not my reality,
- 00:14:46.909 --> 00:14:49.078
- because I know that, despitewhatever is happening,
- 00:14:49.078 --> 00:14:51.680
- that God is with me.
- 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:52.948
- And so, you know, Elaine,
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- I wanna hear yourthoughts on just even like
- 00:14:54.984 --> 00:14:57.052
- the importance of us meditating
- 00:14:57.052 --> 00:14:59.054
- on the word of God right now.
- 00:14:59.054 --> 00:15:01.056
- - Yeah.
- 00:15:01.056 --> 00:15:02.458
- Yeah, I think it's huge.
- 00:15:02.458 --> 00:15:03.792
- And, you know, Iwanna just share.
- 00:15:03.792 --> 00:15:05.527
- I just have thisburden in my heart
- 00:15:05.527 --> 00:15:06.962
- that maybe the Biblefeels overwhelming.
- 00:15:06.962 --> 00:15:09.298
- You feel so broken,
- 00:15:09.298 --> 00:15:10.532
- but you're like, theBible's overwhelming.
- 00:15:10.532 --> 00:15:12.034
- There's this, "Wheredo I even start?"
- 00:15:12.034 --> 00:15:14.603
- And I love that todaywe're telling you
- 00:15:14.603 --> 00:15:16.638
- there's a whole lot of lovein there for you to find.
- 00:15:16.638 --> 00:15:19.274
- And I think that in this season,
- 00:15:19.274 --> 00:15:20.976
- we can go back to,
- 00:15:20.976 --> 00:15:22.177
- "I'm so afraid.
- 00:15:22.177 --> 00:15:23.379
- I'll just open thisand let it speak to me.
- 00:15:23.379 --> 00:15:25.347
- I'll just begin to speakit out over my heart."
- 00:15:25.347 --> 00:15:28.017
- And we're in a seasonwhere fear is rising up
- 00:15:28.017 --> 00:15:30.552
- in our nation, fordifferent reasons,
- 00:15:30.552 --> 00:15:32.421
- for different things,
- 00:15:32.421 --> 00:15:33.889
- and, like Loriann said, thereare a lot of distractions.
- 00:15:33.889 --> 00:15:37.192
- You can get theologyfrom a lot of places,
- 00:15:37.192 --> 00:15:39.695
- but if you'll justopen your word of God
- 00:15:39.695 --> 00:15:41.730
- and you'll open yourBible and you'll say,
- 00:15:41.730 --> 00:15:43.799
- "God, I'm just gonnadeclare this over my life.
- 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.635
- I'm gonna declarethis over my heart.
- 00:15:46.635 --> 00:15:48.504
- I'm gonna declare this in me,"
- 00:15:48.504 --> 00:15:50.172
- I think you'll begin tosee the fruit of that.
- 00:15:50.172 --> 00:15:52.241
- And I think that'swhat it's been for me.
- 00:15:52.241 --> 00:15:54.076
- I grew up, obviously,in a Christian home,
- 00:15:54.076 --> 00:15:56.512
- and I grew up where theBible was a well-known book
- 00:15:56.512 --> 00:15:59.581
- in our home.
- 00:15:59.581 --> 00:16:00.516
- You know, we had lots of Bibles.
- 00:16:00.516 --> 00:16:02.051
- And I love what youjust said, Lisa,
- 00:16:02.051 --> 00:16:04.686
- because I remember the dayI saw Jack Hayford's Bible.
- 00:16:04.686 --> 00:16:07.523
- And I remember he is
- 00:16:07.523 --> 00:16:09.091
- what I believe is an apostleof our generation, you know?
- 00:16:09.091 --> 00:16:12.361
- And I remember he waskneeling down in worship,
- 00:16:12.361 --> 00:16:14.897
- and I was so distractedby his Bible,
- 00:16:14.897 --> 00:16:17.232
- 'cause you couldsee it had tears
- 00:16:17.232 --> 00:16:18.767
- that had dried on the pages.
- 00:16:18.767 --> 00:16:20.302
- You could see it had momentswhen he was angry with God,
- 00:16:20.302 --> 00:16:23.705
- or he was joyful,
- 00:16:23.705 --> 00:16:24.873
- or he had all these feelings.
- 00:16:24.873 --> 00:16:27.076
- And I remember thinking,
- 00:16:27.076 --> 00:16:28.644
- "I want to experiencewhat you've experienced
- 00:16:28.644 --> 00:16:30.946
- in the word of God."
- 00:16:30.946 --> 00:16:32.014
- I was so hungry for that moment,
- 00:16:32.014 --> 00:16:34.149
- that I just opened my Bible.
- 00:16:34.149 --> 00:16:35.384
- I said, "God, I don'tknow what's in this word
- 00:16:35.384 --> 00:16:37.753
- that he's experienced,
- 00:16:37.753 --> 00:16:38.687
- but I want to experience it."
- 00:16:38.687 --> 00:16:40.322
- And now I have oneof those Bibles.
- 00:16:40.322 --> 00:16:41.890
- I have one of thoseBibles with dried tears.
- 00:16:41.890 --> 00:16:43.659
- And it just started fromopening the word of God
- 00:16:43.659 --> 00:16:46.728
- and saying, "Lord,teach me this,
- 00:16:46.728 --> 00:16:48.730
- because I'm afraidand I'm overwhelmed,
- 00:16:48.730 --> 00:16:50.799
- or I'm burdened by this."
- 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:52.367
- And, Lisa, you're one ofthe best people I know
- 00:16:52.367 --> 00:16:55.137
- at teaching us tolove the word of God.
- 00:16:55.137 --> 00:16:57.005
- And your Bible's onethat inspired me as well,
- 00:16:57.005 --> 00:16:59.708
- 'cause it is well-worn.
- 00:16:59.708 --> 00:17:01.310
- And I look at yourlife, and you aren't.
- 00:17:01.310 --> 00:17:03.112
- You are strong and steadfast.
- 00:17:03.112 --> 00:17:04.880
- So, tell us, how didyou get to that point?
- 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:06.982
- How did the Biblebecome that for you?
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- - Yeah, you know, forme, it was desperation.
- 00:17:08.684 --> 00:17:10.786
- I mean, just like you,Elaine, I grew up in church.
- 00:17:10.786 --> 00:17:13.355
- I think I heard my firsthymns when I was in utero.
- 00:17:13.355 --> 00:17:16.358
- You know, we were in churchevery time the doors were open.
- 00:17:16.358 --> 00:17:18.794
- But when I was a little girl
- 00:17:18.794 --> 00:17:21.330
- I thought of theBible as punitive.
- 00:17:21.330 --> 00:17:24.266
- I thought this waskind of this rule book,
- 00:17:24.266 --> 00:17:26.735
- and if I stepped out of line,
- 00:17:26.735 --> 00:17:28.537
- you know, God was just gonnasmack me over the head with it.
- 00:17:28.537 --> 00:17:32.374
- And it wasn't until years later,
- 00:17:32.374 --> 00:17:34.743
- when I went through a realdoubting season in college,
- 00:17:34.743 --> 00:17:37.112
- because I thought,
- 00:17:37.112 --> 00:17:38.747
- "What does this mean thatwe're actually loved by God?"
- 00:17:38.747 --> 00:17:41.984
- Because I envisioned God askind of a unibrowed librarian
- 00:17:41.984 --> 00:17:45.154
- just waiting to disciplineme if I step out of line.
- 00:17:45.154 --> 00:17:49.324
- And I began this long search of,
- 00:17:49.324 --> 00:17:52.394
- "Does God really love me?"
- 00:17:52.394 --> 00:17:54.129
- I know I needed salvation.
- 00:17:54.129 --> 00:17:55.531
- I know I'm a sinner.
- 00:17:55.531 --> 00:17:57.132
- But does He love meor did He just save me
- 00:17:57.132 --> 00:17:58.901
- 'cause He felt sorry for me?
- 00:17:58.901 --> 00:18:01.103
- And that's when I reallypicked up my Bible
- 00:18:01.103 --> 00:18:03.372
- with something Iwanted to learn.
- 00:18:03.372 --> 00:18:06.108
- You know, sometimes Ithink we read our Bibles
- 00:18:06.108 --> 00:18:08.177
- like it's a textbook,or a rule book,
- 00:18:08.177 --> 00:18:10.679
- or maybe a collectionof morality tales.
- 00:18:10.679 --> 00:18:13.248
- It's a love story.
- 00:18:13.248 --> 00:18:17.085
- - I love that you mentionedtheology, because I think
- 00:18:18.587 --> 00:18:20.088
- oftentimes one of the mistakeswe make as Christ followers,
- 00:18:20.088 --> 00:18:22.991
- we think it's just a bunchof smart, mostly dead guys
- 00:18:22.991 --> 00:18:27.162
- who made up theology and that'snot at all what theology is.
- 00:18:27.162 --> 00:18:30.866
- but all of us are theologians.
- 00:18:30.866 --> 00:18:32.367
- We have thoughts,words about God.
- 00:18:32.367 --> 00:18:35.871
- We have to take all thosewords from social media
- 00:18:35.871 --> 00:18:38.273
- and your favorite podcast,spiritual podcasts.
- 00:18:38.273 --> 00:18:42.110
- And we have to runthem through this grid.
- 00:18:42.110 --> 00:18:44.947
- Otherwise, it's notgoing to be truth.
- 00:18:44.947 --> 00:18:47.583
- When you talk about truth,that has to be filtered
- 00:18:47.583 --> 00:18:49.785
- through the word of God,God is for us, He loves us.
- 00:18:49.785 --> 00:18:52.955
- This is a love story,but all too often,
- 00:18:52.955 --> 00:18:55.457
- I hear people say thingslike, well, the Bible says,
- 00:18:55.457 --> 00:18:59.161
- and I'll think, yeah,actually that's not in there.
- 00:18:59.161 --> 00:19:03.165
- We had a little
- 00:19:03.165 --> 00:19:05.334
- tragedy at our house this week.
- 00:19:05.334 --> 00:19:08.370
- My HVAC system went out and itwas 81 degrees in our house,
- 00:19:08.370 --> 00:19:13.375
- which was a little toasty,
- 00:19:14.243 --> 00:19:15.744
- and so the HVAC guy came andwe have a system upstairs
- 00:19:15.744 --> 00:19:20.482
- and a systemdownstairs, and he said,
- 00:19:20.482 --> 00:19:22.317
- where's your filterfor your upstairs HPAC?
- 00:19:22.317 --> 00:19:25.153
- And I was like, oh,it's right over here.
- 00:19:25.153 --> 00:19:27.089
- And he said, no, that's yourfilter for your downstairs
- 00:19:27.089 --> 00:19:30.592
- system.
- 00:19:30.592 --> 00:19:32.094
- He said, where's your filterfor your upstairs system?
- 00:19:32.094 --> 00:19:33.362
- I was like, oh, I'velived in this house
- 00:19:33.362 --> 00:19:35.530
- five and a half years, Ididn't know there was a filter
- 00:19:35.530 --> 00:19:38.967
- for the upstairs system.
- 00:19:38.967 --> 00:19:40.602
- Let's suffice to say, I'm notgreat with mechanical things.
- 00:19:40.602 --> 00:19:43.739
- So anyway, long storyshort, this stranger,
- 00:19:43.739 --> 00:19:46.275
- this HVAC man who was very nice,
- 00:19:46.275 --> 00:19:48.910
- but he finds where the filteris in my little girl's closet.
- 00:19:48.910 --> 00:19:53.348
- And y'all, I was mortified.
- 00:19:53.348 --> 00:19:55.751
- Cause when he bringsthat filter out,
- 00:19:55.751 --> 00:19:58.153
- I mean, there was dog fur,
- 00:19:58.153 --> 00:19:59.888
- there was variousassundry of decorations,
- 00:19:59.888 --> 00:20:03.392
- filthy decorationson the filter.
- 00:20:03.392 --> 00:20:04.993
- And he said, youhaven't changed this
- 00:20:04.993 --> 00:20:07.162
- in five and a halfyears, have you?
- 00:20:07.162 --> 00:20:08.497
- And I was like, no, sir.
- 00:20:08.497 --> 00:20:10.332
- And he said, well, I'vegot to hand it to you.
- 00:20:10.332 --> 00:20:12.301
- This is probably the dirtiestfilter I've ever seen,
- 00:20:12.301 --> 00:20:15.270
- and I've been doingthis for 20 years.
- 00:20:15.270 --> 00:20:17.339
- And I thought, you know,that's why half the time
- 00:20:17.339 --> 00:20:19.608
- we walk around in fear,you know, Stephanie,
- 00:20:19.608 --> 00:20:21.743
- you mentioned just sensingother people's fear
- 00:20:21.743 --> 00:20:24.880
- in the grocery store, and it'sbecause we aren't filtering
- 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.883
- truth through thisperfect, clean,
- 00:20:27.883 --> 00:20:30.585
- loving filter of God's word.
- 00:20:30.585 --> 00:20:32.621
- We're hearing somebodyrepeat something,
- 00:20:32.621 --> 00:20:34.556
- we're looking atsomething on social media
- 00:20:34.556 --> 00:20:36.291
- and we're saying well, that'swhat God says about me.
- 00:20:36.291 --> 00:20:38.794
- And I'm like, did you runthat through this filter?
- 00:20:38.794 --> 00:20:42.331
- Because this filter willclean out all the impurities
- 00:20:42.331 --> 00:20:45.367
- and you'll be leftwith the truth.
- 00:20:45.367 --> 00:20:47.536
- And the truth is that wedon't serve a far away God.
- 00:20:47.536 --> 00:20:51.940
- We are absolutely adored bythis up close personal savior.
- 00:20:51.940 --> 00:20:56.912
- And this isn't a rulebook, it is this love story
- 00:20:56.912 --> 00:20:59.948
- just permeated with truthsabout how much he loves us,
- 00:20:59.948 --> 00:21:04.453
- how he delights in us.
- 00:21:04.453 --> 00:21:05.954
- I was reading thismorning and second Samuel,
- 00:21:05.954 --> 00:21:08.957
- and there's this little verseI'd never noticed before.
- 00:21:08.957 --> 00:21:11.860
- It's in second Samuelchapter 22 verse 19.
- 00:21:11.860 --> 00:21:15.897
- And it says, "butGod stuck by me".
- 00:21:15.897 --> 00:21:20.102
- And I thought, wow.
- 00:21:20.102 --> 00:21:21.970
- And I really neededto hear that,
- 00:21:21.970 --> 00:21:23.505
- I had a hard night last night.
- 00:21:23.505 --> 00:21:25.540
- I was less than patientwith my daughter.
- 00:21:25.540 --> 00:21:28.410
- I didn't like myselfvery much last night.
- 00:21:28.410 --> 00:21:31.646
- And I opened this book thismorning in this love story,
- 00:21:31.646 --> 00:21:34.549
- and the first thing I seeis, but God stuck by me.
- 00:21:34.549 --> 00:21:38.487
- And I just sensed him sayLisa, on your worst day,
- 00:21:38.487 --> 00:21:42.858
- I love you.
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- So Sheila, you were one ofmy favorite Bible teachers
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- as far as mining outjewels of God's love.
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- I'd love for youto share with us
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- and to everybody who's listening
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- some of your favorite truths,
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- because I bet you a nickelsome of the people watching
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- Better Together today we'rejust scrolling channels
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- and Shark Week wasn't on, sothey landed on Better Together,
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- and some of them are thinkingwhat Elaine just thought,
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- "oh the Bible's kind of obscure,
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- I'm not sure how to evenunderstand the Bible".
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- And so we want todemystify truth for you
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- and tell you it's actually anamazing love story to peruse.
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- So tell us some of your favoritetruths, absolute truths,
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- that you've gottenout of God's word.
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- - Well, you know,it's interesting.
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- I've been writingrecently on prayer
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- and then writing foryounger girls on prayer.
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- And I found myself, I wasrecording an audio book
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- and I found myself reading them
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- with tears rolling down my face
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- because there werethings I wish I'd known
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- when I was 10, 11, 12,
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- that you get to cometo God as you are,
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- not as you wish you were.
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- That God is not lookingfor perfect words,
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- He's just inviting our presence.
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- And Sunday I was watching,
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- our church is kind ofsemi-open, and some online.
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- And so I was watching onlineand our teaching pastor
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- was talking about whatLorianne mentioned, you know,
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- going from the Psalmsto Ephesians six.
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- I mean, it was talking aboutEphesians six that Paul wrote
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- that he was probablychained to a Roman guard.
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- So he has this picture ofwhat that would look like
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- while he's writing aboutfull spiritual armor,
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- putting on thewhole armor of God.
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- But you know, that first piece,the belt of truth, you know,
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- he was showing anillustration of how the belt,
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- even though itmight not look like
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- the most significant piece,
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- is the thing that holdsall the armor together.
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- That that belt holdsthe breastplate ofrighteousness on it,
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- holds everything together.
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- And so truth holdseverything together.
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- And I'm just thinking of anyof you watching right now,
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- and maybe you justtuned in and you think,
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- what are they yacking on about?
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- I just want you to know thatthere is a God in heaven
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- who loves you, who seesyou and maybe you think,
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- well, lady, you don't know me.
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- Nope, nope, here's the deal,God has seen your whole movie
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- and he loves youjust the way you are.
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- And I don't know where you findyourself, right this moment,
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- maybe on a place whereyou're just thinking,
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- I don't know what to do.
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- Maybe you feel despair orfear, or maybe you're angry.
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- Do you know what you get tobring all of that to God?
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- You don't have toclean yourself up.
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- That's one of thethings I said to my son
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- when he was just a little boy,
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- you don't clean yourselfup to come to your mother,
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- because you don't clean yourselfup to come to your father.
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- And maybe you're a believertoo and during these days
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- you're like, you know what Idon't know about this anymore.
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- And scripture says in thelast day, some will fall away,
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- but not you, not you.
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- It's no accident thatyou're watching right now.
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- So I would justabsolutely love the power,
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- the privilege ofpraying over you.
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- Father, I ask rightnow, for everyone
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- who has somehow stumbledacross this program,
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- Lord, we can share ourhearts and our words,
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- but I ask that youthrough your Holy spirit
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- would touch each lifeso that they would know
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- that they are seen,that they are known,
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- that they are loved and theyget to come just as they are.
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- I pray that in the powerfulname of Jesus Christ.
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- Amen.
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- - Amen.
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- Thank you so much, Sheila.
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- Our better together communityis always here for you.
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- Please connect withus on social media
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- and let us know howwe can pray for you.
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- We have prayer all the time.
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- Thank you so muchfor joining us today.
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- And we sure hope you willcontinue all week with us.
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- Perfection is overrated, y'all.
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- God did not designus to be foolproof,
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- He created us forrelationship with him.
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- Tomorrow we're going tobe talking about that,
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- how it feels to be fullyseen, warts and all,
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- maybe I should say Spanx andall, by our Creator, Redeemer,
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- and still be perfectlyloved by God.
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- We hope to see you then.
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