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  • - [Narrator] Modern historians have revised, rewritten,
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  • and even deleted entire chapters of American history.
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  • So what are we missing?
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  • What happened to the history that didn't make the books?
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  • Join historian David Barton, Tim Barton,
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  • and special guests as they uncover the facts
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  • some historians don't want you to know.
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  • This is America's Hidden History.
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  • - We're in Montana, what's known as Big Sky Country,
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  • just outside of Cascade.
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  • The reason we're here is to celebrate a hero from Cascade.
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  • In fact, noted as one of the most
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  • famous people in Cascade history,
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  • and it's a woman named Mary Fields.
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  • And Mary Fields was not your typical woman from the West
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  • or even from American history.
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  • Pretty unique lady.
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  • - Yeah, she's known as Stagecoach Mary, and she is the first
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  • black female mail carrier in the United States,
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  • and she actually was the first black to live in Cascade.
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  • So there's a number of things
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  • that make her very different,
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  • but her story is quite amazing.
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  • We're at St. Peter's Mission,
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  • we're about 16 miles outside of Cascade,
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  • and behind us you see part of the church, of the mission.
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  • This is from 1878, and this mission represented
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  • a Catholic work that was done here
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  • in this region surrounded by native tribes,
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  • and this is where a lot of the story
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  • of Mary Fields occurred.
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  • And at this mission, there was a lot that was going on,
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  • and so they asked for some Ursuline nuns to come here,
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  • and they set up a school for girls and did work here.
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  • So you had a thriving community here,
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  • and actually this is where Mary Fields ends up.
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  • But to get her here, we gotta kinda back up to her story.
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  • Mary was born as a slave in Tennessee.
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  • She was associated with the Warner family.
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  • Now, she ends up getting free at the end of the Civil War,
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  • Josephine Warner ends up marrying a guy named Edmund Dunn.
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  • Edmund Dunn was very active in politics,
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  • he was a Democrat, he was pro-slavery,
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  • but he didn't want to see the Union split apart.
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  • What happens was when he married Josephine Warner,
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  • and they married in Florida, well, at that point in time,
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  • Mary's still hanging with the Warner family.
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  • She's freed but with the family,
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  • so when Josephine moves to Florida,
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  • Mary moves there with them.
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  • Josephine has five kids, but it ends up sad time.
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  • Josephine actually died.
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  • And so Edmund Dunn is left with the five kids
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  • and doesn't quite know how he's gonna raise them.
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  • Well, he's got a sister who is in a convent in Ohio,
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  • and maybe that's the best thing to do.
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  • And so the sister, named Mother Amadeus,
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  • she was a Mother Superior of a convent there in Toledo.
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  • What happens is Mary takes the five kids
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  • there to the convent and meets Mother Amadeus.
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  • And Mother Amadeus ends up getting transferred
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  • out here to start the school for the girls.
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  • And so when Mother Amadeus gets out here,
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  • she ends up with pneumonia.
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  • I mean, this is a real weather change
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  • from where she was in Ohio to Montana.
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  • And when Mary hears that Mother Amadeus has pneumonia,
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  • "No, no, this is not good, I'm gonna go help her."
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  • So, Mary comes out here and nurses
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  • Mother Amadeus back to health,
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  • but when she's here she sees all the work that's going on.
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  • They're building the school for girls,
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  • and they're educating these girls,
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  • and, "I can help, I wanna be a part of this."
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  • And so Mary, I mean, she just does
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  • anything that needs to be done.
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  • She can cook, and she can sew,
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  • and she can do laundry, and by the way,
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  • she can also help build the buildings
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  • and help do the construction work and the maintenance.
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  • - It's worth noting that Mary was not a small, petite woman.
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  • She was a 200 pound, six foot black woman,
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  • and she was very strong.
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  • In fact, there were people that would say
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  • she could do the work of a man
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  • and better than men in some occasions,
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  • and so she very much embraced
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  • the physical nature of what they were doing, the labor.
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  • There were some tough moments in winter in Montana,
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  • and there's accounts where she was
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  • bringing stuff back from town,
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  • supplies that the nuns needed to survive.
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  • There were wolves that attacked the little cart she was on,
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  • and actually, the mule ran away and the cart overturned,
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  • and so she stayed all night, guarding the supplies,
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  • this is winter, mind you. - Winter night.
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  • - Guarding the supplies because she knew
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  • if the supplies don't make it, these nuns might not survive,
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  • and so I can't let these supplies get taken away.
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  • Well, there's accounts that
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  • as she was guarding stuff at night,
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  • that she might have to walk around because it was cold,
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  • and if you stayed still for too long,
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  • you might freeze to death.
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  • She went through some pretty amazing things,
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  • and all because she wanted to help
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  • make sure the nuns were okay.
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  • And really, because of the relationship
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  • she had with Mother Amadeus,
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  • she loved Mother Amadeus so much, loved the nuns,
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  • and the nuns loved her.
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  • Now, generally we see that she had
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  • a pretty good relationship with all the nuns,
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  • but maybe some of the men who were working around here,
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  • they didn't always get along.
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  • - Well, part of it too was she was competent in what she did
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  • that she kinda threatened some men,
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  • because this is period of time where
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  • the men are supposed to be in charge,
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  • she's really acting like the foreman
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  • in the construction of all the stuff that's going on here,
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  • and so it's kind of like other guys that are working,
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  • "Wait a minute, you're a lady.
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  • "You can't tell me what to do", and she
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  • didn't put up with that. - And she was a pretty
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  • strong-minded woman, she was very rough around the edges.
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  • - It's really hard to find pictures of her
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  • where she's not carrying a gun as well.
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  • I mean, the reputation was she always had a gun with her,
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  • somewhere close to her if she didn't have it on her,
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  • and so she was kind of an anomaly
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  • for what you would think about with women of the day.
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  • - So there's an account, actually, of her having a gunfight
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  • with one of the guys working out here.
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  • We can't have gunfights on the mission,
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  • that's not what we're about.
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  • So the bishop told the nuns, "You need to send her away."
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  • Well, this was devastating for her and the nuns
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  • because they all loved each other so much.
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  • She felt like she was kinda mama to all these nuns,
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  • maybe like mama bear, all her cubs,
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  • she's looking out for them, she's protecting,
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  • she's taking care of them, and now she has to leave.
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  • And so she goes to Cascade, but as she goes there,
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  • Mother Amadeus has such great concern,
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  • she wants to help make sure she's taken care of,
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  • so she did two things.
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  • Mother Amadeus actually sets up and funds her
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  • to be able to start a restaurant.
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  • As she's working this restaurant,
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  • she's cooking, she's doing a good job,
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  • and she actually goes bankrupt twice.
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  • Mother Amadeus funds this twice.
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  • And the reason she went bankrupt
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  • is because she had a huge heart.
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  • - That's right. - And so when someone
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  • would come in, and they would say,
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  • "Mary, I don't have money right now,
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  • "but when I sell some cows, if I sell my sheep,
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  • "I will bring you money."
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  • She said, "Okay, you just eat.
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  • "Honey, don't even worry about it,
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  • "I'm gonna take care of you."
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  • And she did take care of them.
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  • The problem was she didn't get repaid in many occasions,
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  • so she didn't have the money she needed
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  • to keep it in operation.
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  • But the second thing was she actually wrote the government
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  • and said that, "I have someone who I think
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  • "would be great to help deliver mail to us",
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  • and actually recommended that Mary
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  • be given a job as a mail carrier out to the mission.
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  • - The way the government did it back then,
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  • was they had what they called Star routes,
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  • and these were contracts where they would hire
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  • a private individual to come in
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  • and deliver mail in certain regions, wherever that was,
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  • 'cause they wanted the mail to go through.
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  • And so if there was mail that had to come,
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  • for example, out here to the mission,
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  • somebody had to get it here.
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  • So there was a Star route that you could take
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  • all the mail from Cascade and deliver out to the mission,
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  • and that's what Mary ended up getting was the Star route,
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  • and they say that she won
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  • because she could hook up a six-team,
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  • which is six horses, six mills,
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  • she could hook it up faster than anybody else,
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  • but she won that contract.
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  • She was so faithful and wanted to serve up here
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  • and to help the sisters here.
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  • When the train came into the station, Cascade,
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  • she would meet the train to see
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  • if there's any mail for the mission.
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  • She would get it up here regardless of what the weather was
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  • and again, sixteen miles, she had a mule named Moses,
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  • sometimes she used the mule to cart,
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  • sometimes there's accounts that she would walk through it,
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  • sometimes even with snowshoes for part of it.
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  • She got the mail here and for eight years,
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  • two four-year contracts with the government
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  • on these Star routes, she delivered the mail.
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  • So she stayed connected with the mission
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  • and with the sisters.
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  • - And it was a neat connection,
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  • because Mother Amadeus recognizes that Mary,
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  • who wants to be here, wasn't able
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  • to really be here as much,
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  • and so Mother Amadeus says, "How can I help Mary get back?
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  • "You know what, if she delivers the mail, we can see Mary."
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  • And so Mary is able to come back,
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  • and all the sisters that she cares about, she loves,
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  • she's had a relationship with,
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  • she sees them again, she's able to kind of oversee,
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  • and care for, and help them again.
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  • Well, this went on for eight years.
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  • And Mother Amadeus actually gets reassigned
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  • to a mission up in Alaska.
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  • When Mother Amadeus leaves, Mary was never quite the same
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  • in regard to the mission,
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  • because Mother Amadeus was the person
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  • she loved the most at the mission.
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  • Now, the other sisters still loved her,
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  • she still had a good relationship with them,
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  • but life was just different for her.
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  • Well, Mary's still in Cascade,
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  • she no longer is running the mail,
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  • but she actually starts washing laundry
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  • and starts a laundry business our of her own house.
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  • In fact, one day she was in a saloon,
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  • and there was a guy who came in,
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  • and she starts yelling at this guy.
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  • Apparently, she had done some laundry for him
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  • and he never paid her,
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  • and so she yelled at him, the guy left the saloon, the bar,
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  • so she chases him down in the street
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  • and the reports were that she punched the guy in the face
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  • and came back and said his bill's been paid.
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  • And so she was a pretty rough lady in the midst of it.
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  • Well, she does that for many, many years.
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  • In fact, she becomes so beloved
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  • and really accepted in the town.
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  • One day, her house burns down,
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  • which is where she's doing laundry,
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  • but the people of town love Mary so much
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  • that they actually get lumber.
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  • And the people of town come
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  • and they rebuild her house for her,
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  • no charge to Mary, they love her that much.
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  • - Her birthday became a local town holiday.
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  • The kids at school and the town
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  • would celebrate her birthday,
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  • so she really was loved by the town.
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  • And her birthday is the town holiday.
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  • - Well, and even this idea of her being beloved in town,
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  • well, the town also had a baseball team.
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  • She became the mascot of the baseball team.
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  • Now, if you ask her, she might have said
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  • she was the guardian angel,
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  • she probably still carried a gun,
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  • she probably thought she was defending
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  • all of the men on the baseball team.
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  • Well, the cool part about her life
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  • is not only all the adventures she had,
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  • all the things she did,
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  • what Mother Amadeus had done here at this mission
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  • was introduce her to faith.
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  • In fact, Mary went to church right here behind us,
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  • but when mother Amadeus left life just wasn't the same,
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  • and yet at the end of Mary's life,
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  • she did come back to faith.
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  • - We're in the cemetery where Mary Fields is buried.
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  • She's buried right here behind us.
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  • She died in 1914, and you can see on her headstone,
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  • it says from 1832 to 1914,
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  • and can I just make a comment?
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  • What a remarkable life.
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  • She goes from being a slave to being a free, loved woman,
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  • she has not only seen horses, she's seen stagecoaches,
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  • she's seen the telegraph come through,
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  • she's seen the trains come through,
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  • she's seen cars, she's seen planes.
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  • I mean, what she saw in her life is amazing,
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  • but in the last years of her life here at Cascade,
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  • she spent a lot of time babysitting
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  • and was really loved by the folks, and she loved the kids.
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  • And she would actually get $1.50 a day
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  • for babysitting the kids all day.
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  • Now, you can see her headstone
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  • is different from others around it.
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  • That's because one of the kids
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  • she babysat became a rancher,
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  • and as he was out driving to the pasture one day,
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  • he saw this kind of granite stone
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  • and knew that Mary would really like that.
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  • And so he brought it in, and that became her headstone.
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  • She really was beloved by those who knew her and the town,
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  • and at the latter part of her life,
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  • she actually was able to come back to God
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  • because she'd kinda been estranged there
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  • after the bishop kinda said, "Hey, stay off, get away."
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  • - Yeah, in 1903 she actually went back to confession.
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  • And when she went to confession, the sisters were so excited
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  • that Mary was coming back to faith,
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  • they actually stayed up that night
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  • and they sewed her a dress.
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  • They sewed her a white veil that actually,
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  • when she attended Mass the next morning,
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  • it was reported that she was
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  • no longer wearing men's clothes,
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  • which is what she normally wore.
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  • They just thought this is absolutely amazing,
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  • and so her rededication there at high Mass,
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  • they celebrated Mary coming back to faith
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  • even though growing up, all the things she experienced,
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  • and Mother Amadeus, and loving the sisters,
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  • and apparently having some level of faith.
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  • But then, now at the end of her life,
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  • coming back and rededicating her life to God.
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  • It's a neat closing to her story,
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  • and as we talk about people from American history,
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  • and there's so many fun stories that we can talk about,
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  • and really people that we look at,
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  • Mary Fields certainly is one of the
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  • most hidden heroes of American history.
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  • - We're talking about Stagecoach Mary Fields, right?
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  • And obviously she got that name
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  • 'cause she was a mail carrier
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  • and she was considered to be as reliable as a stagecoach.
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  • But what's really neat is we've got this magazine.
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  • This is Ebony Magazine.
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  • So it's got an article from Gary Cooper, right,
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  • one of the most famous leading men in Hollywood,
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  • an A-lister, and he actually knew
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  • Mary Fields back in the day,
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  • and so he's taking the time to write this story
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  • of this incredible woman's life
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  • because, as an A-lister in Hollywood,
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  • he knows what makes a good story
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  • and he thought that Mary Fields' story deserved to be told.
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  • - We're up in the Northeast,
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  • here to tell the story of Jedediah Smith,
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  • who is probably one of the most significant
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  • discoverers and explorers in American history.
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  • Actually, the reason America
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  • went from the East Coast and started
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  • exploring and moving out West
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  • was largely because of what he discovered.
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  • - Yeah, he's the first American to go across the Rockies
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  • from the East to the West and up in California.
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  • He's the first guy to leave California,
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  • go back East across the Sierra Nevadas
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  • and end up in what we call Nevada.
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  • And then you take the Great Salt Lake Basin,
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  • this huge, vast desert,
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  • he explored it from north to south and from east to west,
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  • and he's the guy who really kind of explored
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  • and mapped out what we now call the Oregon Trail,
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  • kinda opened it up and made it
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  • available for people to come.
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  • I mean, there's so much he did.
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  • And he's born here in New York in 1799.
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  • Really, there's not much record about him or what he did.
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  • We don't know much about him
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  • except that as a teenager, he left and went west
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  • and started his explorations.
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  • So, if we're gonna find out more about Jedediah Smith,
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  • we're gonna have to go west.
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  • So Jedediah Smith becomes one of the most
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  • famous of all American trappers and explorers.
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  • He blazed all sorts of trails, he mapped everything,
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  • and we know a lot about what happened
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  • because he kept extensive journals,
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  • as did a lot of the guys who trapped with him.
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  • So we have a lot of writings
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  • and from that we know that Jedediah Smith
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  • was a very strong Christian.
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  • Others testify that he shared his faith,
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  • he talked about his faith openly in his writings,
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  • he talked about the wonders of God's creation,
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  • what he saw around him, what God had done.
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  • He was just awed by the wonders of creation.
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  • As he comes west, they're really looking
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  • for not only exploration areas,
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  • but areas in which to find furs,
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  • because furs are really needed back east.
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  • Starting in the 1790s you actually
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  • had ships from Boston coming all the way
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  • around South America coming up
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  • on the west side of the continent
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  • to find furs so they could take back to the east.
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  • Now, there's a lot of people
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  • interested in furs at that time.
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  • You actually have five nations
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  • competing out west for furs.
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  • You've got Great Britain through the Husdon Bay Company,
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  • which is Canada, is Great Britain.
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  • You have the French who are also in that Canada area.
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  • You have Russia, and you have Spain,
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  • and you have the United States.
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  • So, five nations out here.
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  • And Husdon Bay Company wanted a monopoly.
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  • So what they did, they started
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  • sending word back east and everywhere,
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  • "Oh, the Great West is nothing but a desert.
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  • "It is desolate, you can't live out there.
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  • "There's nothing there, you can't grow anything.
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  • "There's no animals there."
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  • They really wanted people to stay away,
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  • and they were so serious about it
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  • that when the War of 1812 broke out,
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  • the British actually brought warships over the west side.
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  • Now we think of the War of 1812
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  • as being the East Coast, no, they got warships out here
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  • because they want this area.
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  • - Yeah, certainly it was something
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  • that we underestimate today,
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  • the significance of the fur market.
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  • Certainly, there's the iconic images of the mountain men
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  • and you see them with layers of fur on,
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  • which the mountain men would need to survive.
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  • That's part of how you have warmth,
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  • and your blankets, and your jackets,
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  • but there was so much of a market
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  • over in Europe and the East, obviously warmth, but luxury.
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  • There was a lot of aspects to this market,
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  • and because of the high-dollar market,
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  • everybody wants a piece of this,
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  • and so when the British bring in their ships
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  • to try to prevent other nations
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  • from being able to have a piece of this.
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  • In fact, America, we're fighting
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  • for control of it at the same time.
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  • This was a big deal.
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  • - It was a big deal.
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  • And eventually, Russia and Spain
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  • cede their claims to America,
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  • and France ceded hers to Great Britain,
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  • so you essentially have America and Great Britain
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  • who are the ones contesting this area.
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  • But he's exploring all over the United States.
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  • He actually makes it up into the Black Hills region.
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  • Now you think he's on the West Coast,
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  • but now he's back in the Central States
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  • up in what's Dakota areas,
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  • and he's in the Black Hills region
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  • with his other trappers, and they're looking,
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  • and they're mapping everything.
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  • And as he was riding through a thicket area
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  • where there was a lot of woods
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  • and his other guys are scattered out.
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  • He gets jumped by a grizzly bear.
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  • And it was a massive grizzly bear.
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  • It swiped at him with paws, and it chewed on him,
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  • and finally for whatever reason
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  • the grizzly bear left him alone.
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  • We think Jedediah Smith just kinda played dead,
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  • and then the bear didn't think he was a threat and left him.
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  • When the other guys got over there,
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  • his face had been torn off.
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  • Literally, he had no face.
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  • It had been torn around to his side,
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  • the bear had chewed on his ear
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  • and his ear was just mincemeat.
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  • And so the other guys get there,
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  • and Jim Clayman was one of the guys with him,
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  • and very calmly, Jedediah said,
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  • "Well, anybody have any needle and thread?"
  • 00:18:06.050 --> 00:18:09.090
  • And it's like, "Uh, yeah."
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  • He said, "Well, get it and bring it over."
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  • Jedediah Smith pulled out a mirror
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  • and he held it in front of him, he said,
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  • "Now, take my face, pull it back over here, now sew it up."
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  • And so he told them stitch by stitch how to sew it on.
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  • And when they got done, the chewed ear was left
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  • and they didn't know what to do with it.
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  • He said, "Well, try to sew my ear back on."
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  • And so he held the mirror and he said,
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  • "Now, sew that part," and he takes them
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  • through the whole thing of sewing his face back on.
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  • They took 10 days off for him to recover
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  • and then they wound out trapping, exploring again.
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  • Amazing stuff that they went through.
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  • We can't even imagine what
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  • it'd be like at that point in time,
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  • but that was the character of Jedediah Smith,
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  • and he went all across the United States doing this.
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  • Behind us, this is a highway,
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  • and it really has become a superhighway.
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  • It was Jedediah Smith who came through here
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  • and found the area called South Pass.
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  • South Pass is a little further west of here,
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  • and that's the top of the Rockies in the northern part,
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  • and it actually is a ramp that leads right up to it
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  • and a gentle ramp that leads right down to the other side.
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  • So that's why they could get wagons,
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  • and that's why they could get families and groups
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  • across the Rockies up here in the North.
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  • This became known as the Oregon Trail,
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  • which is what's right behind us.
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  • It had literally millions of Americans
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  • who moved from East to West
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  • and built the Western part of the United States.
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  • And those who came through this area,
  • 00:19:38.140 --> 00:19:39.290
  • it was largely because of what Jedediah Smith did.
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  • He publicized this region.
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  • - [Tim] And so you have Jedediah Smith,
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  • and then you have the missionaries.
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  • - [David] And then you had the wagon trains.
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  • - [Tim] The East rode the wagon trains to the stagecoach.
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  • - [David] And then you got the telegraph,
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  • and then you got the cattle drives.
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  • - You have the trains coming behind us,
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  • all the way to the cars.
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  • All of this is because of people like Jedediah Smith
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  • helping explore this route and making it known
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  • that this was possible for people
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  • from the East to come to the West.
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  • But this is just part of Jedediah's story.
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  • There's still a lot more to come.
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  • (upbeat music) (traffic rumbling)
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  • - We're talking about Jedediah Smith,
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  • and while I was doing research
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  • trying to dig up some of his personal artifacts,
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  • I realized there's really not
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  • that many left from him personally.
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  • But there are a lot that would have been used
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  • in that time period of the early 1800s.
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  • So I've actually got two Bibles
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  • that would've been like the ones he had carried,
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  • and over here, moving into his role as an explorer,
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  • we've got a powder horn.
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  • So this is from that period.
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  • We've got a little wooden cork
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  • that he would've used to keep all of his gunpowder in,
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  • we've got a really hefty ax right here
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  • that he would've used both as survival, right,
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  • chopping wood, and some other things.
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  • Over here, we've got a flintlock pistol.
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  • So this is one that you can actually tell
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  • it's been sawn off so it's kinda more of concealed carry,
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  • but this is what he would've used
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  • both for hunting and for self-defense.
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  • So a lot of the artifacts that are
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  • very similar to what he would've used
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  • while he was out West exploring,
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  • opening up the rest of the American continent.
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  • - Jedediah Smith explored not only lush meadows,
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  • and flowing rivers, and scenic mountains,
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  • he also explored the desolate part of the United States.
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  • Now, when you get out in dry areas like this,
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  • you have no idea if water is there.
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  • You have no records of anyone else having been there
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  • so you don't know what you're gonna find
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  • or where you're going.
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  • And he records that literally,
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  • there were days on end when they went without water.
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  • A matter of fact on one occasion,
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  • he said that because of the dehydration,
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  • some of his guys were starting to fall out.
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  • They just couldn't make it,
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  • they were just falling over like fainting.
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  • He actually took and buried them in sand up to their necks.
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  • It's like saving their life.
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  • "I've got to go try and find water
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  • "and the sun's gonna bake you,
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  • "and I've gotta protect you from the sun."
  • 00:22:02.050 --> 00:22:04.080
  • And he was able, within the next day,
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  • to find water, he came back, they were still alive,
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  • and he was able to revive them and get them going again.
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  • And other difficulties they faced
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  • including not knowing how to deal
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  • with Native American tribes they found.
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  • And sometimes those tribes
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  • would be ferocious on first contact.
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  • So he's been in all this danger for years.
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  • He decides, "I don't need to be
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  • "on the exploration edge of this,
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  • "out on the very front edge of what's happening.
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  • "I can be on the back edge on the supply side,
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  • "and I can supply materials to those
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  • "who are doing all the explorations."
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  • - Which presumably should be a much safer job, right?
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  • "I take care of the shipments
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  • "that get out to the guys doing the exploring."
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  • Presumably this would be safer.
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  • Now, it didn't end up being the case
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  • but that's at least a thought.
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  • - Yeah, he was taking a shipment of goods
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  • from Mid-America back up what we would kinda say
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  • maybe the St. Louis Independence area in Missouri,
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  • and he was going to the South,
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  • what we would call the Santa Fe Trail.
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  • He got out and they had been three days without water.
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  • So, to find water they broke up
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  • and went in several directions,
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  • hopefully somebody can find it and let everybody else know.
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  • And it turned out that he was the one who found the water.
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  • And he did something he usually didn't do.
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  • He was not aware of his surroundings.
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  • And what was around the water hole was a band of Comanches,
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  • one of the most aggressive,
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  • most warrior-like tribes in the Western Plans,
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  • and they fell on him and killed him.
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  • Generally where Jedediah Smith died,
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  • it's in the Cimarron kind of area there in the Southwest.
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  • Never found his body.
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  • But Jedediah Smith, I mean, what he did for America,
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  • what he did in making the knowledge
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  • of what was out West available to all Americans
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  • is so much of what helped build the West.
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  • And without the work that he did,
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  • America would not have become the same nation
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  • or the way that we know it now, and perhaps someone else
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  • would've gone out and done the same thing,
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  • but nobody did it like Jedediah Smith.
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  • He was a remarkable leader,
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  • and he's one of those guys that did shape the nation
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  • that so many people just don't know about today,
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  • but he's one of the great
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  • hidden heroes from American history.
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  • When I look at Jedediah Smith and Stagecoach Mary,
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  • there's some things that stand out to me.
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  • And one, Jedediah Smith.
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  • I mean, here's a guy that somewhere as a teenager
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  • he says, "I'm leaving New York.
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  • "I'm going out West where nobody's ever been.
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  • "It's only 3.000 miles away, but that'll be fine."
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  • He has all the dangers, he has all these times of no water,
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  • not knowing where food is,
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  • not even knowing where he's going
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  • or what's on the other side.
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  • He lives outdoors, essentially, for a decade,
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  • and in reading his writings,
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  • he was really good about recording things.
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  • I can't find a single whine,
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  • I can't find a single complaint,
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  • I can't find him regretting anything.
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  • And he's always looking positively and forward,
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  • and he keeps talking about how God's hand is there
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  • and I'm gonna follow God.
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  • It's like he trusts God in such a way with his life
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  • that I don't know that we've got
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  • that kind of courage today,
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  • but especially not to complain with what he went through.
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  • - And to embrace life as it comes, right?
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  • To redefine normal.
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  • We have an expectation of life,
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  • should do this, and this, and this, and this,
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  • and if it doesn't then I'm frustrated,
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  • or I'll complain, or I'll whine,
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  • and you read what he went through
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  • and, you know, it's no big deal
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  • to not have food for a few days,
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  • to not have water for three days.
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  • It's just kind of normal for him.
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  • I mean, you start reading and going,
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  • "Okay, that's not normal."
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  • But for him to be able to embrace life,
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  • that was not uncommon from any of the frontiersmen,
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  • the mountains men, and people
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  • that went and did those things,
  • 00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:22.240
  • but you see this from him,
  • 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.130
  • which is not typical to what we see today.
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  • - Well, you look at Stagecoach Mary
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  • and there's the image of a really strong, tough lady.
  • 00:25:28.190 --> 00:25:32.050
  • I mean, punched a guy in the face to get my two bucks back.
  • 00:25:32.050 --> 00:25:35.080
  • But at the same time, she babysat children
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  • and they loved her.
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  • I mean, the school has its holidays for her birthday,
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  • and then she'll follow Mother Amadeus anywhere
  • 00:25:42.190 --> 00:25:44.260
  • out of loyalty, because I really wanna help and serve,
  • 00:25:44.260 --> 00:25:47.160
  • and by the way, both of my restaurants went broke
  • 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.270
  • because I was just so generous
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  • giving to people who were in need.
  • 00:25:51.110 --> 00:25:52.170
  • - Well, and what's funny about her legacy
  • 00:25:52.170 --> 00:25:54.030
  • being Stagecoach Mary, she never drove a stagecoach.
  • 00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:56.140
  • - That's right.
  • 00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:57.290
  • - So you get a title from something you never did.
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  • Now, I mean, people would explain,
  • 00:25:59.260 --> 00:26:01.030
  • well, she was reliable as a stagecoach
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  • when she would deliver mail, and her character,
  • 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:04.230
  • and you could trust on her.
  • 00:26:04.230 --> 00:26:06.020
  • But she's somebody that is really kind of
  • 00:26:06.020 --> 00:26:08.040
  • this interesting dichotomy.
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  • When you look at the picture of the culture she lived in,
  • 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.070
  • she was doing things most women didn't,
  • 00:26:12.070 --> 00:26:14.280
  • maybe couldn't, but at least didn't do,
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  • and she did it well, some occasions better than men.
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  • But she's a really fun story to see.
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