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America's Hidden History | Bronco Charlie

October 3, 2019

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America's Hidden History

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America's Hidden History | Bronco Charlie

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- [Narrator] Modern historians have revised, rewritten,
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and even deleted entire chapters of American history.
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So what are we missing?
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What happened to the history that didn't make the books?
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Join historian David Barton, Tim Barton,
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and special guests as they uncover the facts some historians
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don't want you to know.
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This is America's Hidden History.
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(fast-tempo western guitar music)
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We're in Fort Laramie, Wyoming.
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Fort Laramie's one of the oldest historic sites in Wyoming.
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Decades before it was a territory, the fort was here.
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It has the oldest post office location in Wyoming.
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But the reason that we're looking
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at Fort Laramie is this is also
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where the Pony Express had one of its offices.
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And the Pony Express was a significant piece
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of American history.
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Yeah, and the reason we're actually focusing even
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on the Pony Express right now is
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because the hero for this show
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is a guy named Bronco Charlie.
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Now Bronco Charlie was one of the youngest guys
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and most famous guys ever to ride for the Pony Express.
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But to understand his story, really,
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we need to understand the Pony Express a little better.
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So back up in time.
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When the mail is being delivered throughout America,
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at that time it's being delivered stagecoach or steam ship.
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And so there was a group of businessmen
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who said you know, I think we can do this better.
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I think we can do it faster.
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And so they had a business venture saying
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what if we got several hundred horses,
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we have maybe a couple hundred stations,
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and they would have horses at each station?
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And what would happen is these stations
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were spaced out maybe every 15 to 20 miles,
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and so you run a horse as hard as you can
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to the next station, you swap horses,
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and this was their idea is if we just run horses
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as hard as they'll go,
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we probably can make the mail get there faster.
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So these three business guys decide,
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well, let's try this plan and see if it works.
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And they actually made a fairly good team of it,
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and they thought we can do this in half the time
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that everybody does if we can get this all put together.
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Well, they ended up getting over 500 horses,
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they had roughly 190 stations,
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and then put a station master at each station,
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and the station master was in charge
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of taking care of the horses at that station,
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of maybe having some food there
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so when the Pony Express rider comes up,
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they have some food, a horse that's ready.
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So they have horses, they have stations,
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they have station masters,
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but now they have to recruit riders.
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So one of the fun things from history
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is there's old recruiting posters from the Pony Express,
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and one of my favorite ones says,
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"Wanted, young, skinny, wiry fellows, not over 18.
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"Must be expert riders, willing to risk death daily.
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"Orphans preferred, $25 a week."
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Back in 1860, that's a lot of money,
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but it says orphans preferred.
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Why do you prefer orphans?
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Well, because we know this is dangerous,
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and we don't want Mom and Dad upset
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if you don't make it back alive.
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And even at that, the fact they said young,
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skinny, wiry fellas, why would you want that?
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Well, because the horse has gotta carry the mail and you,
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and you don't wanna run the horse out
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over that 15, 20 miles.
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So the average weight of a Pony Express rider
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was between 100 and 125 pounds,
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so it would be like today's professional jockeys.
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These are small guys.
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We know they were tough guys because
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of what they did along the way
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and fighting outlaws and fighting Indians
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and fighting mountain lions and bears.
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They were tough, tough, tough guys, but they are teenagers
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in the 100 to 125-pound range; it's amazing.
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Well, and so not only were they gonna have to be tough
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in the sense of fighting off things,
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and most Pony Express guys, they would come
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with their own guns, but these business guys says,
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there's a few things we wanna make sure they have just
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for the journey, so there were two things
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that every Pony Express rider had
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in addition to all of their own gear.
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They were all given a Bible,
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which actually was printed by these three business guys,
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which even says something of the culture of that time,
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that if you have some free time,
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what's the best thing to read?
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Well, we think it's the Bible.
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So every Pony Express rider got their own Bible.
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But they also were given a horn or a trumpet,
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and the reason was as you are riding the horse
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as hard as you can to the next station,
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when you get to where maybe you see the station
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off in the distance, start blowing that horn.
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The station master hears the horn,
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comes out and gets another horse ready and waiting for you.
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That way, when you get there, you can swap out really fast,
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mount on this new horse, and you are gone again.
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So that's something that the Bible, the trumpet, and a gun
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were the constant companions of these Pony Express riders.
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But in addition to that, they wanted you
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to have high character as well.
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So you took an oath as a Pony Express rider
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that you will not swear, you will not use profanity,
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you will not drink, you will not get in fights
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with other Pony Express employees.
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They wanted high character in the people they hired.
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Now the Pony Express didn't last all that long,
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only roughly for a year and a half because,
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at this point, you have the expansion of the telegraph.
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In DC, the federal government says we got a great idea.
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We've got telegraphs that goes partway across the country.
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Why don't we connect the telegraph all the way
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to the West Coast, and that way we can get news
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and message all the way east to west?
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10 days after the Pony Express starts,
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they start building the transcontinental telegraph.
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When they finally got it finished in San Francisco,
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on the day that that first message went
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from East Coast to West Coast,
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that's the last run of the Pony Express.
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So the Pony Express lasted about a year and a half,
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but what they did in that period of time
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was absolutely remarkable.
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And the reason this matters for our story
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is because the hero of our story is Bronco Charlie.
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But his adventure starts when he's just a kid.
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(dramatic, intense instrumental music)
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(fast-tempo western guitar music)
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We're in Cody, Wyoming.
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Behind us is a statue of a Pony Express rider.
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Now the Pony Express trail actually came not too far
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from this area of Wyoming, but this is
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where our story takes a little bit of a twist
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because of the individual who is a part
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of the Pony Express, Bronco Charlie.
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Now he's the hero of this show,
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but Bronco Charlie's story really does start much younger
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when his family comes to California.
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They're living out in the frontier, that kind of lifestyle.
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There were vaqueros who would ride by,
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and he said the vaqueros were the best-looking thing around.
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Well, when he was eight years old, he talked two vaqueros
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into taking him to their ranch.
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The ranch owner writes his parents a letter
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and says hey, I've got your son.
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We're gonna take care of him.
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It's no big deal for us, we got him.
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Well, all he wanted to do-- Now, wait a minute.
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How parents today are gonna say,
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oh, he's eight years old, you got him, that's fine.
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I don't even know you, don't know who you are.
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Well, so eight years old, he decides I just
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wanna live here and work with the horses.
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And so the vaqueros, he says they teach him
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how to shoot, they teach him how to use a lariat,
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they teach him how to really ride a horse,
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but all he wants to do is break the wild horses.
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And he explained they get this horse,
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they put a blindfold on him, they get a saddle on him,
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they get Bronco Charlie up on it.
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Well, when they think he's got the hang of it,
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they turn him loose, and the horse just takes off.
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Well, as the horse is running,
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it steps in a gopher hole, the horse falls, he flies off.
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He says it hurts so bad, but I knew I'm not supposed
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to let go of the reins, so he's on the ground,
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holding the reins. He says the horse was bigger than me.
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No eight year old could handle it.
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It's pulling away, he's pulling back.
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Well, the vaqueros come up, and they're able
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to get the horse, and they help him get back up on it.
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Only a couple days later, the vaqueros were going out
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to round up more of these wild horses,
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and he says, I wanted to show them
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that I really could handle this.
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I really was tough.
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He says, so I took my lariat, and I walked into the pin
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where all these horses were.
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He says, and I was gonna get this horse named Rabbit,
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and I was gonna ride it by myself.
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He says, I caught five of the wrong horses
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(David laughs) before I finally
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caught the right horse.
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When the vaqueros came back and they saw
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what he had done, they were so impressed,
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well, they gave him the nickname Bronco Carlos
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or Bronco Charlie, which he says was a name he carried
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with him the rest of his life.
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Well, at the age of 11, he and his dad are in town,
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and as they're in town, there was a horse
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that had come through town without a rider on it,
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and the horse-- And it was
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a Pony Express horse because of the saddle.
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And the assumption is that rider probably
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is dead somewhere along the trail.
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And so they run down to the station.
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The station master's there and says,
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I don't know what we're gonna do.
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We were gonna take this rider
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and put him on a different horse.
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And Charlie says, my dad looked at me,
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and we both just knew.
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He says, my dad picked me up, put me on the horse,
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and says go, son.
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He says, and I just took off at a gallop
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on my way to Placerville, and it's 40-something miles away.
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He had to ride through the night.
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He said when he was riding, he heard a mountain lion scream.
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He said it was the most terrifying sound he'd heard
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in his whole life.
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It was like a woman was being murdered.
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Well, he finally arrives at the post
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at Placerville the next morning.
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When he gets there, the station master looked
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and had all kinds of questions.
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He said, you're not the normal rider.
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And Charlie said, I didn't know what to tell him
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because nobody had even told me what to do.
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My dad just put me on the horse and said go.
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So I told him what happened, and they said okay,
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you can stay here.
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Well, this is the beginning of his journey
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with the Pony Express.
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But then they expanded his route,
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and so he went from riding roughly 40 miles
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to more than 170 miles was part of his route,
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and he even acknowledged that during one of these rides,
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he heard something whisking by his head.
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He turned around, and he saw Indians up on a hill,
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and they were shooting arrows down at him.
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Well, as he's running, finally, arrows do hit him,
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and he said it was at this point I thought what can I do,
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and he remembered he had a gun.
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So he drew his six gun, and he began firing back.
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Well, he was able to maneuver and escape.
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When he made it to the station, he was covered in blood.
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They didn't make him keep going that night,
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but the next morning, he was up to ride again.
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Well, his adventure continues throughout the Pony Express.
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Each time he's riding, he's got part
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of the Sierra Nevadas to cross,
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and that's a rugged mountain range.
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And so he's going up to 170 miles by himself,
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and we are still talking an 11 year old here.
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But nonetheless, what he did over that period of time
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is absolutely a remarkable story.
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And what he accomplished
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in those several months actually led to his fame
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because people heard about this young boy,
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and they began to write stories about him.
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Now many of them were fictitious stories,
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but he was a great kid to write about.
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His fame really grew.
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In fact, it grew so big that, in just a few years later,
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because of his fame as the Pony Express,
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he was going to be invited to join a pretty massive show
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by Buffalo Bill.
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(dramatic, intense instrumental music)
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(fast-tempo western guitar music)
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Behind us is the statue of Buffalo Bill.
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Now Buffalo Bill was a very famous name in American history.
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In fact, many movies have depicted him
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as a hero or an individual in those stories.
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The thing he's probably the most famous for
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is a show he did called The Wild West.
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As he's trying to find the right people
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to be part of the show, one of the names that comes up
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is someone who was very, very famous
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as a young boy in the West, a Pony Express rider.
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And Buffalo Bill says, well, let's show them
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what the Pony Express was all about.
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And so he hires a man named Bronco Charlie.
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Now Bronco Charlie at this point is not a boy anymore.
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He's a little bit of an older guy,
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older guy only in terms of the Wild West.
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He's in his 30s, roughly, now.
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So he's a grownup in the West.
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But in the West, that's pretty old.
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30 'cause he started busting broncs when he was eight,
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and he's riding Pony Express when he's 11.
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So man, when you're 30, that's really old in the West.
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Well, so Bronco Charlie is part of the show.
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And as being a young man who learned
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to break this broncs and become a very good rider,
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he's showing what does it look like
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if you're a cowboy in the West,
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you're working with horses, how do you actually do that?
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Well, he did this in the show in the East for a while.
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And they also even had, as part of the show,
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well, how did the Pony Express work?
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So they would have a ride come galloping into the arena,
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he would jump off his horse, he would grab the mail
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off the saddle, he would jump on another horse,
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throw the mail up, and he'd take off,
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and they'd show the exchange, how that exchange happened
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from station to station to station.
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They're trying to show people how the Old West really was.
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And so Bronco Charlie was with the show for several years,
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and the show did really, really well.
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And it did so well, they said, hey,
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if people in the East like this,
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why don't we go further east?
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Let's go to Europe and show those folks
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what the Old West was like because, even in Europe,
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the stories about the Wild West and the Old West
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and what we don't hear, it was legendary in Europe.
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And so they end up in Europe,
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and it's a real hit in Europe as well.
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Well, and in Europe, they feel like they're very advanced,
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they're sophisticated, that the Wild West,
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those guys are backwards.
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And so one of the fun things that happened while they
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were over in Europe was there was a bicycle race,
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but it wasn't just a normal bicycle race.
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- [David] So they actually set up a race
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between bicycles and between Bronco Charlie.
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The race is for six days.
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For six days, you're watching a bike
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and a horse go in circles!
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Now, I gotta say, there's not a horse
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that's gonna last six days on a gallop against a bicycle.
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So Bronco Charlie had to change horses 53 times
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during that race.
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He used 53 different horses, and he won the race
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with a two-mile advantage over the other guys.
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They were still two miles behind in laps
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when he crossed the finish line.
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So actually, the old technology really
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is pretty good against the new stuff.
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(dramatic, intense instrumental music)
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(fast-tempo western guitar music)
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After the Wild West show, Bronco Charlie retires
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from what he considered public life
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where'd he'd been in the public eye for so many years.
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And so he actually comes out,
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and he lives on a farm, on a ranch.
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He retires at this point; he's roughly 44 years old.
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He has a wife, they have three kids,
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and he's just living a normal life as a cowboy.
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Well, he goes to town on occasion,
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and actually he said one day he was going to town,
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and the Salvation Army Hall was there.
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And the Salvation Army was an organization largely trying
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to reach the souls of the lost, if you will.
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And he decided to go and sit in one of their halls,
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and he sat in the back, and people saw him there,
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and they actually accused him of being a sinner.
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And that didn't sit well with him, and he was very offended.
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And he got up, and he left.
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Well, he actually wrote in a letter,
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and he said that his son was sleeping.
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His son wakes up screaming, and he and his wife get up,
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and they run to see what's wrong with his son.
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And he says, I had a dream, Daddy,
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that the devil had you, and he burned you up.
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And he said that that really made him think.
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Very shortly after that, his son got sick,
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and it was described from Bronco Charlie
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as black diphtheria.
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And actually, the son wasn't the only one that got sick.
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All three of his kids got sick, and then his wife got sick.
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In fact, when they called for the doctor,
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the doctor recognizes this, it's like a plague,
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and so the doctor says you need to stay in your house.
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They put a quarantine on the house.
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Nobody in the family could leave.
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It wasn't long after that all three
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of Bronco Charlie's kids died.
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They all succumbed to black diphtheria.
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He was torn up, he was devastated.
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His wife was still sick.
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He thought he was losing his wife, too.
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He says he just cursed God, was so frustrated,
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couldn't understand why this was happening.
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Well, his wife gets better,
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the quarantine is finally lifted on his home,
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and so he decides he's gonna return
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to town and actually go to the bar.
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He's gonna try to drown out his sorrows with alcohol.
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And as he goes to the bar, he hears the Salvation Army Band
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playing, and he decides to stop and listen.
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He heard the songs they were playing,
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he heard people speaking, and he was so convicted,
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he decided, he said, I had to give my life to God.
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He says, so then and there, I gave my life to God,
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which is a really neat redemption testimony for him.
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Actually, he says that he was so passionate
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that he began traveling and telling people the gospel.
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Well, he was in a town, and he was sharing the gospel,
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and he said really, I didn't know what to say.
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I didn't know much, but I knew that Jesus had saved me,
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and I knew that all that called
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upon the name of the Lord could be saved.
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He said, but a pastor came to me and said Charlie,
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you might need to reconsider this whole preaching thing.
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He says, your life has been so rough,
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you might not be the best example to tell people the gospel
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because of how much you've been a bad guy,
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essentially is what the pastor says.
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Charlies says the zeal for the Lord,
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at that point, really, really died in me.
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I've never felt as passionate as I did then,
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which is really a sad thing for a pastor
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to say. Yeah, what a sad thing.
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Right?
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That's the whole gospel message, right,
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is that God can reach you and redeem you.
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Well, nonetheless, Charlie does come to the Lord,
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and so he and his wife were now living back on the farm.
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When he's 67 years old, World War I breaks out.
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Now, Charlie's been an adventure guy his whole life.
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He decides he's gonna go on this adventure of World War I.
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He goes and signs up at the US recruiting office,
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except, like a recruiting office
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would tell a 67-year-old today,
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they said sir, you're a little too old.
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Sorry, we're not gonna be able to let you enlist.
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Well, he was so disappointed and frustrated,
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one of his friends found out Canada actually took people
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up to the age of 44, and Charlie thought I
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can tell them I'm 44.
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He got on his horse, and he rode to Canada.
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He tells them he's 44 and he wants to fight.
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The Canadian military signed him up.
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He fought for two years in World War I
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in the Canadian military.
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At one point, he says he finally told his commanding officer
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he actually was a bit older than 44.
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At that point, he's 69, he finally retires
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from World War I. And by the way,
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some of the guys who fought with him said he
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was so good at telling stories 'cause he
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would go back and tell them about the Wild West
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and tell them about the things he'd done.
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And they said he so entertained us,
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there they are on the front and fighting,
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he even showed us tricks he could do with a horse
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'cause they're still using horses in World War I.
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And he did, he entertained the troops
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by horse tricks, which you can imagine, right?
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This is a cowboy.
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Eight years old, he's already doing things
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on a horse, he's learning tricks,
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and the stories he has to know
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from the things he did with Buffalo Bill
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to the Pony Express, really some amazing things in his life.
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Well, when 69 finally hits, he retires,
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comes back home, and he does settle back down
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on his ranch, which one of the things,
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it's pretty cool he says, and we don't know exactly
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what year is this happened.
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But he says that God gave him and his wife two more kids,
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and God restored that to him,
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which is a really neat testimony.
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Now at this point, he's 69, but his story's not done.
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(mid-tempo, jazzy big band music)
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Hi, I'm down at the WallBuilders collection,
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going through our icons,
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doing some digging on Bronco Charlie.
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And actually, we have a couple of original artifacts
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from the Pony Express and Bronco Charlie himself.
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So what I have here, this is an original Bible
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from the Pony Express.
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It was given by the owners,
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it's got their names on the front of it,
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to every single one of the riders.
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And what's awesome about this is they made it small
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and compact so that the riders
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could carry it with them so that they could refer to it
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while they're doing this dangerous job.
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It's a really cool, leather-bound, neat artifact.
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And additionally, over here,
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we've got the only surviving letter from Bronco Charlie.
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So this is actually from his later years.
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He's writing to a close friend of his
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about his conversion to Christianity.
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So it walks through how he wasn't saved
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and then he had this transformative experience,
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and he actually became something
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of a minister of the gospel, something almost
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like a cowboy pastor, even.
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And he writes to his friend, and he says,
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"I'm sorry to say a preacher who, mind you,
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"told me that I was unlearned,
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"and I went home and never preached again."
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Bronco Charlie was basically the biggest celebrity
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of the time back then, and to have a pastor come up
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and tell him you probably shouldn't be preaching
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because you know you didn't go to school
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for it is crazy to think about.
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But it's really neat and really captures a lot of his story.
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And over here, we've got some awesome
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and really colorful, really cool-looking comic books
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and kids' books about the Pony Express,
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and it shows how big of an impact this had
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on the American imagination.
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Every boy growing up wanted to be a Pony Express rider,
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so they started doing this, and it shows the Pony Express
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was such a big, impactful moment in American history,
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and Bronco Charlie one of the most famous riders.
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(dramatic, intense instrumental music)
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(fast-tempo western guitar music)
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We're standing in front of a Pony Express marker,
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and this is actually where a station stop used
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to be along the Pony Express route,
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right along the Oregon Trail.
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And the reason we're back by a Pony Express stop
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is because Bronco Charlie, after his amazing adventures
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throughout his life, when he's 80 years old,
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actually, in his autobiography,
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he said he was 81 years old, he decided he wanted
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to relive the glory days of the Pony Express.
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The mayor of New York found out he wants
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to go on this ride, and the mayor says, well,
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let me give you an official mail dispatch.
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And it was really just a letter,
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but it was a letter to the mayor of San Francisco.
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And so Bronco Charlie gets on his horse,
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he goes to New York City, he gets a letter from the mayor,
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and then he rides his horse from New York City all the way
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to San Francisco, California.
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This is an 81-year-old man, mind you.
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Now when the Pony Express was in action,
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they would go 10 or 15 miles,
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and they would swap out a horse.
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That's when the next station was.
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Well, this is not back in the 1860s anymore.
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This is now roughly 1930s, and so,
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to do this in the 1930s, he's not able
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to swap out his horse along the way.
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He's on one horse riding from New York all the way
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to California.
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It took him seven months to make this journey.
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But as he was coming to towns, people knew who he was.
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He was a famous guy, so, as he would come to town,
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the people would line the streets of the towns.
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They would cheer for him as he would come by.
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One reporter actually said by the time he made it
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to California, he had killed 27 rattlesnakes
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because, well, what do cowboys do?
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You carry your gun, you see a rattlesnake,
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and you just shoot it.
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He's total cowboy.
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Well, he makes this last ride seven months of a ride.
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He delivers this letter in San Francisco
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to great fanfare, people were celebrating,
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and now he's had this great adventure,
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so he can finally go back and settle down
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and retire once again except World War II breaks out.
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And just like in World War I where he says
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I wanna be involved, I wanna fight,
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I want a piece of the action,
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now the recruiting office said sir,
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you're a little older than what we're looking for.
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But it was reported that he actually
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was recognized as being this famous guy,
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and he was asked to come be part of the fundraising efforts,
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some of these big rallies they would do to raise funds.
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It was reported not only did he show up,
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but he rode his horse to the event
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because what do cowboys do?
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They ride horses; that's just what you do.
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Well, that's when he's 92 years old.
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He actually was interviewed by a reporter
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when he was 100 years old.
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It was just days before his 101st birthday.
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And when he was interviewed,
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the reporter asked him a very interesting question.
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They said, Bronco Charlie, in all the things you've done,
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100 years of life, do you have any regret?
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And that's an interesting question
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to ask a cowboy with all the things he's done,
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on the Pony Express, being a part of Buffalo Bill,
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his kids that died, and then he's part of World War I,
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and then he has this amazing ride again as an 81 year old,
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and then World War II, he's helping raise money.
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He's done a lot of stuff in his life.
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The reporter asked do you have any regrets.
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He answers and says the only regret I have right now
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is that I can't be with my brothers
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in Korea as they're fighting this war.
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Well, it was the middle of the Korean War,
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and this 100 year old's only regret
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is that he can't go fight war,
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which is an amazing thing to tell about him.
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Actually, he told the reporter, he said I don't know
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why they won't take me.
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I can still ride a horse now as good as I ever could.
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In fact, I can take a bullwhip at 28 feet.
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I can crack a cigarette in half.
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I could still be useful.
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Well, this is one of the last reports about Bronco Charlie.
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He died when he was 105 years old.
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Now 105 is amazing even for us today.
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But when he died, he was the last Pony Express rider
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that was still alive, so there was some celebration
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of his life at that moment.
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But even though today we can look back
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and see the amazing things he's done,
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he's a hidden figure in much of our history
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because today, most people don't know his story
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and haven't heard about him.
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Bronco Charlie certainly is one
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of the hidden heroes from America's history.
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(gentle, pleasant acoustic guitar music)
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(horse whinnies)
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(chickens clucking)
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Looking back on Bronco Charlie,
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I think the word that stand out
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to me more than anything else is expectations,
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the expectations that his father had for him,
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the expectations he had for himself.
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Father looks at the station master
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when there's nobody in the saddle
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and says can anybody ride?
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Yeah, just take an 11 year old in there.
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Take off, kid.
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Expectation is he could do it.
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And then even as I look at him late in life,
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golly, I'm 80 years old.
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I can do this, I can cross the country.
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I'm 67 years old, I can fight in World War I.
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And I think that's a real good indication
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of maybe where the culture has gone today,
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is that we've changed what we expect we
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can do for ourselves or what others expect of us,
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and we just don't do as much as we used to.
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Well, even the idea of expectations,
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the word that I think of the most with him is grit.
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For him, he was embracing the way life came,
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but the way he kept going was
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because he had so much courage.
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The expectation was if you could, maybe you should, right?
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If you have the ability, if you can do something,
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well, you should go for it.
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Well, think about how different we'd be today
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if we blew off those expectations.
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Oh, you're only 13, you can't do that.
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Okay, then I won't even try.
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Or you're 67, you can't.
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All right, then I won't.
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We respond to what somebody else's expectations are rather
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than giving it the shot. Yeah.
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And that's that grit.
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Well, and even one of the cool things
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about his life is when he has this moment
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where he comes to God, and his story of faith is so unique.
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But we know from studying history it
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was not uncommon for guys back in that era
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to have grown up with the Bible, to be familiar with God.
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But it's so neat to see someone
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who is as rough and as tough and as gritty as he is
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to have this moment where he's drawn to God.
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And certainly recognize, then,
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if you're in a situation where your wife
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and your kids have some kind of plague,
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your house is under quarantine,
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you're gonna be questioning everything.
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When your kids die, it makes sense
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what he was feeling in life.
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It's just such a cool testimony
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to see God get a hold of his life
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and then he continues on with the life
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with the same grit, the same courage, the same fortitude,
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not this idea of the limitations culture puts on him.
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It really is such a unique life
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by someone who is the epitome of
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what we imagine from early America.
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There wasn't anything they couldn't do.
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They just went for it, and they made it happen.
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